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Microsoft Shifts Xbox Gaming Handheld Ambitions to Third-Party Windows Handhelds, Postpones 2027 Launch Plans (www.techpowerup.com)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 days ago (8 children)

If M$ was smart, they'd develop a version of Windows optimized for gaming. But they can't do that without implying that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Eh.. No

Without implying that desktop Windows wasn't made with hardware that has neither a keyboard or a mouse in mind? That it wasn't made to be used on a 7" screen? Sure.

Only in the Linux fanatics minds does it implies that desktop Windows is inferior for games.

It's not as if people are using the Steam Deck in desktop mode when they want to play games either and the experience on Steam OS in desktop mode if you don't connect at least a keyboard is pretty shit as well, so I guess that the fact that by default it boots in Steam mode must be a proof that Linux is inferior for games if we follow your logic.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They're probably building off Windows RT (the locked down variant designed for ARM tablets).

If they were smart they'd imitate some of how SteamOS runs games in a modified WinRT environment - TLDR do NOT start up the entire Win32 runtime and desktop environment by default, don't run stuff like printer services and whatnot, just run a simplified sandbox and window manager with just the APIs needed to run the games similar to Proton. Then let the user switch to desktop mode as needed, but don't run it when gaming.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That is literally what they’re doing.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

There is absolutely zero chance a windows handheld gaming device succeeds, what the actual fuck are they thinking, lol.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What do you mean? The ROG Ally has been successful. It’s a great device.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

It's powerful, but the device isn't "great." It suffers from poor ASUS quality control and support. Let's also not forget the notorious overheating SD card slot because they thought it was a good idea to put it next to the exhaust. It's a poorly thought out design especially compared to the Steam Deck. Valve's effort is still the best on the market.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

I bought mine used with the SD card slot busted and I still think it’s great. Maybe because I didn’t pay 600 bucks for it!Definitely my favorite handheld ever.

I think the Steam Deck is pretty neat and I love the design of the device itself (I am not enthusiastic about the Ally’s L337G4mer aesthetics, and even less so with the monstrosity above), but for me not having access to Gamepass is a deal breaker so I’d never consider it. Maybe when I fully jump into PC gaming sometime soon I’ll switch my tune. But I digress. Other than the SD issue I’ve found that the ROG Ally is a very capable device and I have seen no other issues with it to be honest. The software it comes with is actually pretty good and makes it so that you don’t have to deal with Windows almost at all. The coolest thing is that you can dock it and you basically have a mid end workstation too.

My fist handheld was the Gameboy Color so it just boggles my mind how far we’ve come.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Dont overestimate the power of the Lobotomites.

They already managed to invade Lemmy and complain about SteamOS not supporting a 4090, so its only a matter of time until they start hating linux alltogether

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

But generally they already do hate Linux, we're talking about the demographic that considers webp a bad image format because some Windows default applications don't support it while having no idea what the format is like

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

At this rate they should brand it as a Zune device.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Cool. I’ll just be over here happily playing my Steam Deck.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Maybe even get Xbox gamepass on it.

Im honestly not sure why they're making a handheld Xbox after their "everything is an xbox" push. Why have just an Xbox when you can get anything else PLUS an Xbox for likely cheaper?