I have a book that proves Megatron overcame oppression and led the Decepticons to Freedom!
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Actually there are many books of Spiderman which means there's more proof for Spiderman than there is for God.
Imagine picking up a copy of a copy of a copy of partial recreation of a blog entry about Spiderman existing in the year 4000, and having a long argument over whether Alain Robert, "The Human Spider" ever existed.
Imagine picking up a copy of William Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar" in the year 4000 and insisting "This guy couldn't have been real, either".
It's curious, because I rarely see this argument aimed at the Apostles - particularly John and Peter. There's just this tacit "They're liars, it never happened" subtext. No one is brave enough to challenge the entire history of a schism in the Jewish church two millennia ago. Or to consider the apocrypha or the gnostic texts or the plethora of splinter faiths that emerged from this singular moment.
These are things that seemingly happened independent of a non-existent person, without any identifiable precursors. It's like spilling a bunch of ink claiming Lincoln wasn't real without asking who won the presidency in 1860.
I haven't really heard that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist as an argument against Christianity, just that he wasn't God and didn't to miracles/resurrection. There is a ton of exaggeration in all mythology texts, and some are just stories to illustrate a point. But of those that did have factual events, they are rarely a true telling.
Maybe some Israelites left Egypt during a particularly shitty time in Egypt. It is so easy to take a story of a smallish group of Israelites escaping slavery during a plague and being chased by some guards who gave up, and repeatedly embellish that story until God both hardened Pharaoh's heart and punished him for not doing right by His people (which number far more than could possibly have been living in Egypt at that time) by giving a series of plagues, and then wiping Pharaoh and his army out with a magical sea passage that closed on them. It's such a trope of all human storytelling it's been a joke for centuries.
Apply that to literally every story, think of the motivations behind those writing it, and you can get an amazing moral teacher becoming God.
But to the point of the meme, from the perspective of people in the future, there may have been a Peter Parker, but there's no reason to believe there was a Spider-man without more to go on than the comics. Likewise, religious texts.
I haven’t really heard that Jesus of Nazareth didn’t exist as an argument against Christianity, just that he wasn’t God and didn’t to miracles/resurrection.
I've seen quite a few folks float the full blown "Jesus was invented by the Romans to trick the occupied state of Palestine into accepting Roman rule" theory.
Apply that to literally every story, think of the motivations behind those writing it, and you can get an amazing moral teacher becoming God.
Sure. Siddhartha (the Buddha), Mohammad, even Confucius to come extent.
But like with most of these, the divinity of a figure is decided on well after they've been dead and buried. What I'm stuck on in the denialist "You can't prove Ancient Historical Figure X existed now that I've arbitrarily rejected the veracity of all the existing materials."
But to the point of the meme, from the perspective of people in the future, there may have been a Peter Parker, but there’s no reason to believe there was a Spider-man
The point of the meme is that religious texts are fictional, because fictional texts exist.
The point of the religion is that society should organize itself around certain traditions and taboos, because it will lead to a utopian future of peace and plenty.
There difference between Jesus and Spider-Man isn't their magical powers, its their activist base of enthusiastic followers.
I haven't really heard that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist as an argument against Christianity,
The big reason for this is that the name Jesus is interpreted and thousands of men came to and from Nazareth.
Can anyone disprove one of them wasn't "Jesus of Nazareth"?
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No more than anyone can prove one of them was.
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Middle English: via Old French from ecclesiastical Latin biblia, from Greek (ta) biblia ‘(the) books’, from biblion ‘book’, originally a diminutive of biblos ‘papyrus, scroll’, of Semitic origin.
Little books. Booklets. Since both God and Spiderman have several books, they will have to play this out by arm wrestling or Parcheesi.
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Proof that for every two Jewish people there are at least three opinions
I only see a bunch of ornamented books?
Its called the Mishnah, its a bunch of long dead old people arguing over things of mostly very little significance (even for religious people)
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Someone should use AI to take the bible and make a competing religion that uses science to disprove otger religions but convinently injects it's own unscientific narrative just to see how many people get convinced.
so... scientology?
There's absolutely no science in scientology though.
I know the name but never looked into it
It's absolute insanity. Like, it legitimately started as a scam and is now a kidnapping cult
Don't. They are a cult. Don't get into it. Watch the south park episode, it will teach you everything you need to know about it. But leave it at that.
I’m 0:52 seconds in and already convinced I can’t watch this for 37 minutes
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I’d rather have Spider-Man as a guide for my morals than that genocidal freak they call God.
You could do a lot worse than Peter. "With great power, there must come great responsibility" is an adage to live by.
- Be God
- Create humans
- Wipe out almost all life off earth in a flood because you’re not happy with the result
Yup, that’s what I call responsibility.
I'm not a believer but their is decent evidence to suggest that Jesus was a real guy.
There's as much evidence to support a dude named Jesus lived in Nazareth, as there is that a guy named Sam lives in current-day New York.
A few hundred to a few thousand Jesuses likely lived in Nazareth.
Yeah, he was a normal guy
"sup, name's Jesus, you guys into 40k?"
Not really. There is no contemporary evidence and all tales about him were written decades or centuries after his purported life. And even if there was a preacher named Jesus that got executed by the Romans for sedition, that still doesn't make any of the supernatural claims any more plausible.
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Who is more likely to be real. Robin Hood or Jesus?
There's decent evidence Tom Holland is a real guy too
Lies and heresy.
Ok, even if there was a guy named Jesus (which, like, there were thousands; that name was super popular at the time), this guy wasn't god. The meme says the bible is their proof that god exists, not that some guy named Jesus existed.
But a schizophrenic guy named Jesus must have been much rarer.
Spider-Man. Respect the hyphen.
And he's real. And broke.
https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/22dd641b-9dec-4118-b3e8-09087b1979c7.mp4
He was always the least ego centric spider-man.
God exists in the same way spierman does, in our hearts.
Actually, my Peter Parker location is slightly to the right of my spleen. He says he's very comfy there 🤷