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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I know expensive, shitty healthcare in the USA is a stereotype, but in my experience it's also largely true. Maybe it's because I'm not wealthy or connected enough to have access to the good stuff, though?

The bills for my latest medical emergency are rolling in now.

The $1,000 USD ambulance bill is almost a relief, since I've heard others say their ride cost several times more than that. I declined pretty much all medical care in the ambulance and all offers for medication/treatment, though, so maybe that's part of it. Had I lost consciousness, I likely wouldn't have been able to say no.

The $2,000 USD emergency room bill? That's just the part that I have to pay out of pocket. The actual price they charged my insurance is $6,000+ for my slightly more than 90 minutes on a stretcher in the hallway. And it doesn't seem to have covered anything specific because the imaging (which I didn't even need), treatment, medications (which I would have refused if I knew how much they charged but they don't know that and can't tell you ahead of time), individual nurses, etc are all billed as separate line items. I was even charged thousands of dollars by a doctor I never even saw in person. I joked in another thread recently about $45 tylenol, but that's actually true. I'm paying $45 for 800mg of tylenol.

Months later, the billing part isn't even finalized. New claims/bills showed up literally 2 days ago, well after I thought I was done paying. Thousands of dollars out of pocket, on top of paying a thousand dollars a month for insurance.

At least the medical professionals that treated me were great.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

At least the medical professionals that treated me were great

last time i was in the hospital in the states the nurses and the hospitalist intentionally tried to kill me via malpractice.

I've had good hospital experiences, but not in the last ten years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Last time I was in the states the doctors and nurses murdered me in my hospital bed.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As someone who hasn't been to a hospital since he was 13 I would love to hear wtf I'm in for when it inevitably happens. Why would they do that? What did they do? Was it subtle? Stupid?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is crazy. I once stayed at a hospital for two months, countless ultrasounds, even an invasive procedure where they sent probes down my veins, two MRI's and the final cost was around 5k... payed by state supplied insurance. I payed 0 and even got payed 80% of my wages... cause that's the law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the US right? FMLA? I was also out for about 6 months but received full pay, not 80%.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

I once collapsed and lost consciousness in the streets in Russia. Someone must have called an ambulance. I woke up in a hospital with a woman yelling at me for my insurance number. (I am a Russian citizen but I have never lived there, I tried explaining I had a traveller's insurance, but she didn't understand what I meant.) Anyway, after I got treated they released me basically as Jane Doe, I never got billed anything.

Over the course of the years I had to go to a hospital in Russia two more times. Each time they would rather not bother with figuring out how international insurance works (basically, I would pay a bill and then send it in to the insurance company and they would reimburse me - I explained that over and over) and just let me go free of charge.

The treatment was good and professional and stereotypically unkind. I'm still amazed by how they'd rather not bill you because they aren't sure what you're talking about than try to get the money and let you figure out how to pay it. Too much of a hassle I guess.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I once was visiting Detroit and got very drunk My airbnb. wasn’t far from the bar and I was way too loaded for a taxi to take me back, and it was a nice night so I decided to walk back to the airbnb I made it about 200 steps and felt something Hit me in the head. Someone was grabbing at my pocket and I guess I successfully stopped them from stealth by my wallet since it’s all ripped.

Anyway my head is split open and there’s blood fucking everywhere. I tried dialing 911on my phone. Not sure if you’ve ever tried making a call on a bloood covered phone when you can’t see because you’re blind drunk and your vision is obscured by blood but it’s impossible. Anyway, a couple of people see me and get me an ambulance.

Now, I’m from Canada, and I THINK that I had international health insurance from work but I’m not sure. Anyway, they deal with the blood and tell me I’ll need stitches in the emergency room but I’m still loaded and the bleeding stopped so I ask if I can just leave and they’re like: no.

I call my buddy who shows up to take me back to the airbnb but I tell him: I’m not getting stuck with a fucking American hospital bill. Fuck this. Just walk out and I’ll meet you out front. I wait until the nurse is out of eye sight, crouch low and run past the admissions desk and out into the street, where my friend calls a very kind cab driver who sold us some decent cocaine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

In general, you're allowed to refuse treatment. That's bodily autonomy in action.

They'll want you to sign a form saying you're leaving AMA (against medical advice), but other than that and arguing with the nurses and doctors about leaving vs staying for treatment, they really can't keep you.... Unless you're under arrest, which, it does not sound like you were.

In any case, it's your life and your body, you can choose to, or refuse to, do whatever you want with it, provided that you're not breaking any laws by doing so.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope the rest of your night goes ok then. Let us know when you get the stitches.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This was like 6 years ago. Didn’t get any stitches. I thought I’d have a badass scar but it faded pretty quickly.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Yeah some of us are poor enough to never forget how obscenely predatory America in general, and capitalism in specific, are.

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