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Is that bad? (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I'm no programmer nor coder or such, I call myself advanced user only.

If having part of an app (I refer app as OS here, and start menu as part of an OS) to spike CPU/memory usage, does that means that part is not being used without being called? and leaves resources fully free? Sure big spike happen when the sub-part is called, but without being called?

IF part of an app is not even loaded while not used, isn't that actually good? I mean, depends how often that app part is called and have to load from the void.

I imagine that could be better than having unused part loaded all the time, wasting the resources?

Also, I totally skip part of poorly coded compared to old smooth and optimized code.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago

Yes, all things being equal, your understanding is valid. But let's do a car comparison.

You have your current car. It burns a little gas running idle, and much more when you're using the gas pedal to accelerate.

Now you buy a new, Windows 11 car, and it not only burns more gas idling, but when you accelerate it sucks down so much gas you can watch the gas meter go down.

The outrage is that the OS is so badly designed and implemented, something you do a lot causes everything else on your computer to slow down, and costs you extra in your electricity bill, because it is needlessly consuming irrationally huge amounts of CPU power to open a menu.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Well, yes, in some cases, but the start menu is something you interact with very often. The average user (and I mean office worker in their 40s)doesn't even pin items to the taskbar. As such, the main way to open apps is through the start menu. Think about this way. In this situation on a laptop, you either save ram or battery. Constant cpu spikes aren't good for energy efficiency. This also means hogging your ssd, which might be an issue in specific situations. On the other side, keeping the start menu fully in ram could be perceived as a waste, it really depends on how often you use the start menu and how much you value energy efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

In case of the start menu, the sensible thing would be to optimize it sufficiently so that it doesn't hurt being kept ready constantly.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Much thx for explanation,

Looks like my understanding is valid - it is situational.

With a pointing to, I've noted most office workers do have apps pinned, by themselves or IT guy. Often even too many, like 3-4 web browsers lol. Also they rarely work on laptops, but office PCs. At least my country (Europe).

Also, could guess MS or most big tech companies may want users to make common parts used faster, to make them buy new faster :giggle:.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been trying to help my parents use Windows since the '90s. They still to this day have no idea what the Start menu is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Quality teacher!

but, how do they turn PCs off? win-d alt-f4? think win-d was not a thing in early windows... please don't say by power button.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't they have like 9 graphics libraries and frameworks accross 4 languages already?

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

It's actually at least 13.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is it really? Does microsoft have no faith in its own user32 UI API?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

Yeah, windows apps, even official ones are just a mix of react native apps.

https://microsoft.github.io/react-native-windows/

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to be with it! (XAML) Then they changed what it is! (WinUI)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

WinUI is yet another thing, it's not React native. It's kind of a new version of WPF with additional things and you can still use XAML

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have heard that Classic Shell is once again functional under Windows 11, but it was critically broken and thoroughly unusable for too long for me, and I have since moved on to StartIsBack, which can do almost everything I found essential with Classic Shell.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

long time startisback user, even paid for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Yup, it's great!

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