What features does Gmail even have to sacrifice? It’s just basic email.
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Yeah, this isn't really scientific or anything. The details of he survey aren't really discussed in detail, and its not random sampling... Its readers of android authority.
That's nearly equivalent of saying, the majority of people in this privacy group care more about privacy than google features.
I'd be interested to see a broad survey like this though to get a real sense of how the general publics views on privacy are changing.
If users want privacy, then they should have never used gmail in the first place.
Moving away from gmail is one thing, but Proton's CEO is a massive cunt that I wouldn't personally trust anymore. I have an ongoing subscription for some of their services (including email, but I don't really use it), and I'm going to move on from there after the subscription expires.
not to mention Proton's PR team has mod positions in the subreddit and lemmy community and like to do some pretty aggressive censoring of anything that refers to the CEO's support of Trump in hopes of gaslighting everyone to forget about it.
I got banned from the lemmy community recently and my posts removed as 'misinformation' for talking about it... like man the entire internet saw him say this shit.
Gmail has features? Fucking where?
honestly i believe the reason so many people are never gonna switch from google is because so many services allow you to use your google as an easy one click register/login. its so convenient that i have friends who'd rather have all their privacy be infringed than to give that up.
not to mention the dozens of services google provides themselves, from maps to mail to search to whatever the fuck
similar to apple, its an ecosystem. one of convenience.
100%. it's SO annoying to remember passwords especially when my phone doesn't auto save them 50% of the time because it doesn't feel like it.
Why doesn't everyone just use a better manager like Lastpass or Bitwarden, it's super easy to use.
I do use Bitwarden, and in my experience of >1 year, it's good enough. It sometimes doesn't save automatically and if you save (for example) a McDonalds login on PC, it won't offer to fill on their app. Also you cant save new passwords offline which is a pretty rare situation but it made me want to rip my hair out (granted I didn't have enough food that day so I was angry to begin with).
Minor gripes for sure, but Google doesn't have the same annoyances. Not worth going back to Google though.
I guess I've always just made the new passwords in Bitwarden and have it fill in the form rather than fill in the form and let Bitwarden save it. Do you not use generated passwords? Can't help you on the offline thing, I see how that would be annoying.
It's called the Googleverse.
Many people don't know the difference between the Google search bar and the URL bar anymore.
Andy Yen tipped his hand, he’s a trumpbitch. Money you pay them supports a facist fuck
Fun fact: Fascism is not thinking republicans will do better than democrats in pursuing antitrust battles against big tech for the benefit of smaller businesses.
Please don't use this word at random, plenty of people in my country (and many others) died fighting fascism.
Fun fact: Trump is 100% a facist fuck, which is who I was referring to. He’s a self enriching oligarch wanna be who is literally killing people.
GOP sucks Trump ass on the reg. GOP is not only complicit, they enable, and support authoritarianism and anti freedom patterns.
Get your head in the fucking game if you’re correcting people.
PEOPLE ARE DYING NOW
which is who I was referring to
So when you said
money you pay them go to support a facist
You meant Trump...Sorry, I am going to doubt that. I am quite sure that sentence meant "money you pay to Proton go to their CEO (a fascist)". Why money would go to Trump otherwise...is Proton sponsoring Trump? Hence my comment.
Alternatively, your comment was completely off-topic and unrelated to the post. Possible, I simply assumed you were not lost on the internet.
They try to tell me that I have to control my reactions when I respond. It’s hard for me.
I apologize for my intensity. Sometime I see connections that are clearly self deterministic.
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You 're right, partly, in noting that facism doesn't care to curdle tech at all and has given some not-so-subtle chant code on behavior. No one clocks it for what it claims to be because it's so detailed in declaration that the digestion of what isn't even an expression, to boot.
Facism has no fucks given to tech but will dance like it's Mardi Gras and you note the sign about and absolute refusal to claim gender. Any at all must be discarded to enter this art of chanting and rituallizing to the end of the hearing to the synchronization from time, story, kharma, and of course language.
I highly recommend Disroot.org. I switched as part of my deGoogling and I am very happy.
Email doesn't need "features." It's been a solved problem for decades.
It does need a PGP integration.
I mean I know why it won't, and never in Gmail, but we do need it.
You'd be surprised how seamlessly https://flowcrypt.com/ integrates with gmail. Been using it for years, zero complaints.
I agree.
I guess most of these people don't understand the difference between the protocol/server and the client software, and most of those use the web ui anyhow.
The ONLY reason I'm on Proton mail is because My Bank insists on it.
Your bank wanrs proton?
Yes. Because they have "secure" in the name. 🙄