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https://feddit.org/post/12851368

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due to the previously communicated defamation campaign by quokk.au, which was later followed by defederation by them after we requested them to remove their censure, we have now defederated from quokk.au.


One of the triggers for the current debate is this post, which followed the removal of a comment comparing National Socialism with the current situation in Israel, which can be considered a trivialization of National Socialism. Such statements can, among other things, lead to imprisonment. Among other things, the post claimed that the removal had a Zionist motive, an accusation that should always be supported by appropriate evidence and prior to which it should be ruled out that there are alternative explanations.

We will not be removing every comment that goes even remotely in this direction, but we reserve the right to permanently ban users from feddit.org who make unfounded accusations, such as labeling our instance, admins, moderators, or other users as Nazis or Zionists, without substantial supporting arguments. This is especially the case when this is recurring behavior and not an isolated incident.

If this censure by quokk.au is not withdrawn in a timely manner, we will defederate quokk.au from our side for these unsubstantiated and untrue accusations.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

So feddit.org is full of zionists, wanting to murder all living things in Gaza? Gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Authoritarians can't handle being called out, make it harder to be called out.

Genocide is perfectly rational and normal, calling it out is a bad idea. No tought crime allowed when the government is aiding the moral and just murders.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

German bootlicker siding with the genocide state because government said so and if they help israeli here, then Germans are clear for all the crimes they committed against gays, slavs and romanis etc 🤡 and jews, obviously the jews

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (19 children)

feddit.org defederated quokk.au for calling their mods zionists

one of quokk.au's admins called a feddit's admin "absolute trash human being" and "nazi cunt". That seems to be the reason.

Apparently they felt so upset for being banned from feddit that they defederated their instance (quokk.au) from feddit.org altogether. Now feddit.org defederated back.

Honestly that admin just seems insulting and toxic. I'm glad that kind of stuff has no place on my instance.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Isn't that synonymous with "Zionist"?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

These reactions are very German of them... I am sure it all makes sense within German speaking community but from outside perspective these people are literally Nazi 2.0: the Israeli boogaloo

we gonna make it right with the jews by helping them do a shoah against people they dont see as humans. The law says we have to do it so it is right and proper

🤡

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Love me some fediverse drama. Calling mods nazis is some classic internet stuff. But I can’t say I know much about these instances.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lemmy's type of decentralization still gives too much power to a few people.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

When the janitors own the space, there's always the chance petty shit turns into rash decisions.

That being said, idk what that instance even is, never seen it before.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

For your context: Feddit.org is the spiritual successor of the German speaking instance feddit.de, which became mostly defunct after the web frontend stopped working and the admin couldn't be tracked down.

Quokk.au is an Australian instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

i swear if you just removed all discussion of palestine from this place it’d remove 80% of the drama

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tell me more about how not discussing a potential human rights or war crime issue makes it better.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

you guys seem to have some sort of twitter tier level of delusion to think discussing it on an internet forum will make a difference somehow, it won’t, if lemmy died the impact it would have on the world would be 0

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Ohh I am sorry genocide interrupts your memes lol

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Comments for this post are disabled, as we don’t expect any constructive discourse here, and we don’t want to create another comment section for terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc. There are already plenty other posts where discussion can take place.

Not sure how to feel about this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Last paragraph of the first link in body

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

They are not here to have a discussion

They are just following orders

Their MO has been throughly exposed

A discerning shit poster should take note and avoid their communities, that's how federation works. When they bully noobs, educate them on the fedi lore 🐸

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The way it's worded, it makes it sound that anyone opposed to their POV is one of "terrorism advocates, genocide deniers, holocaust trivializers etc." I'm hoping it's just unfortunate wording.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Unfortunate wording, if you saw the comment sections on past posts on that drama you'd know the kind of people they mean with that

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Every time I feel like feddit.org is going into the right direction, shit like this pops up. Marvellous.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just FYI: There are laws in DE concerning Holocaust denial, relativism etc. The subject is tricky to say the least. I understand the feddit.org mods don't want to find themselves in court because some edgelords went on a rampage. They are already cursed enough moderating ich_iel ;)

Personally, I feel the whole discussion regarding Israel/Gaza is extremely difficult in Germany, even at my Stammtisch. The underlying reason is obviously found in our history, though the consequences of that history are misunderstood. Never again means never again, I don't care who commits the atrocities.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Should Lemmy.world apply the same standards as they are hosted at Hetzner?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

politics is starting to become problematic, they used similar message in why they "removed or banned comment"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly, I wouldn't know. Not a lawyer in international internet affairs :) Interesting question though.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

That was the question raised by people when feddit.org came up with that policy. A lot of Lemmy instances are hosted at Hetzner, but feddit.org is the only one this policy.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

It's an unbelievably stupid decision imo. Talk about tone deaf.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I feel badly about it. Zionists are fascists, and the Nakba is like the Holocaust. People should be able to say that. They should also be able to say Hamas is not conducting a genocide (because they don't have enough guns to do what they want). I don't support terrorism but I do think we should be conducting targeted strikes against IDF military assets without involving civilians, and I think the terrorism advocacy is mostly coming from Zionists.

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