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TranscriptionA series of Tweets.

The first shows no author, and reads:

What does deadname mean?

The second is by Logan☭Lycanthrope @Ciroctopussy, and is a screenshot of the Dragonball Wiki, reading:

in: Terminology

Deadnaming


Deadnaming is the use of the birth or other former name (i.e. a name that is "dead") of a transgender or non-binary person without their consent

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1 Overview

The third Tweet is by reby @ rebyricks

Why dragonball wiki of all places

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

I found it just now in <5 minutes of searching.

The page existed for 3 hours in 2021, and again for 20 minutes in 2023. Looks like it may have been created especially for this screenshot.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are people censoring "consent" now? On Twitter of all places?

Truly, the last safe haven for free speech.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I assume it's been reposted to Instagram, Facebook, reddit, etc a couple dozen times and the censor happened somewhere in there

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago

Twitter would be the first place I'd expect to censor "consent", since getting bought out by America's favourite transphobe and serial abuser of power dynamics...

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago

In the Marvel UK comic issue "Stargazing", Starscream claims that Christmas is a celebration of the birth of someone called "Christ". Some suggest that Christ and Jesus are one and the same—a deity, in fact—but there is no canon evidence for this.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

According to the link, the singer Madonna is Jesus' mom 😄

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

There's a reason for that

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Probly because Vegeta and Raditz constantly deadnames Goku

Edit: I'm dumb, Goku isnt trans or nb (as far as I know)

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It doesn't matter whether someone is trans or nb. Imagine anyone changing their name for any reason. Let's say through marriage. Hypothetically Jane Doe changes her name to Jane Smith or something. When someone then keeps using their old last name, that's deadnaming too. Goku doesn't consider Kakarot to be his name. He mentions that several times and some characters just don't get it. They're willfully obtuse. Goku is Goku.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Goku does actually eventually come around to kakarot and embraces his heritage. He never lets it define him tho like other sayaijin try to force him to believe.

It's not entirely dead naming if anything that's the least of it and more him originally not accepting that he must be a murder hobo just because that's "who he is ment to be". He refuses the ideal and the name kakarot is to him what represents that. Cause originally the only people he associates with that name killed him, his friends and hurt his family.

Remember Goku didn't choose to give up the name, he was given it by Vegeta basically. It wasn't something he was trying to to leave behind but something he was refusing to accept.

But over the years the sayaijin of earth redefine what it means to be sayaijin and that's when he starts accepting it. No longer telling people that isn't his name when they use it.

Even using it himself depending on context. Kakarot becomes a name eventually he's proud of as he grows. A name that represents a strong will, and fighting spirit. While Goku continues to be his family name and his connection to his grandfather.

Goku and kakarot are two different facets of the same person.

The story of the name kakarot is a story of accepting your heritage, learning to not blame yourself for the sins of your father and that you can always redefine what it means. A name is what you make of it, and letting it rest dead means that you were not strong enough of will and honor to move on and make it your own.

And no one should allow shame, and external pressure take away from them their name, their heritage and their honor. Your deeds are your own let no one else define you by their own word and actions. You should always take what your ancestors left for you and leave it in a better state for the next generation. So that they may be proud of who came before them, and build onto a foundation as sturdy as rock.

Rest in peace, Akira Toriyama.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Deadnaming surely applies to cis people who change their names as well right?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Names have power. To deadname someone, regardless of why their name changed, is to strip them of the power to determine how they are referred to. It should be just as offensive to cis people as it is to trans people. I had a professor years ago who said it was akin to using slave names to destroy sense of self, its a power play, and a fucked up one at that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think level of offense taken is up to the individual, but otherwise agree.

destroy sense of self, its a power play, and a fucked up one at that.

Which makes one question why woman have their name changed at marriage. I hate the "I now present Mr and Mrs MAN NAME" thing that happens at weddings.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Cw: misogyny by proxy

My religious education had an answer for that, plain and simple that "women are property". The Master of the Estate and his Mrs.

Its super gross, it actually made me feel kinda icky that my ex wife took my name, for that reason, but tradition prevailed over my opinion there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think of furries and other online friends like this, yes. Being trans isn't the only situation in which one has chosen an identity other than the one they were assigned.

That said, I wouldn't characterize Vegeta as deadnaming Goku exactly. I can't recall that Goku is upset by it, and I think it's mostly there to indicate Vegeta's continued connection to his home planet even after many years of being an Earthling.

Calling Steven his mom's name is deadnaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Kakarot isn't Goku's dead name, it's not a name he's leaving behind. It's Goku non acceptance of the name early on because of his connection to bad things.

He does eventually become proud of the name and embraces entirely of his own will.

The story of the name kakarot is as much Vegetas and his connection and undying pride to his heritage.

As much as it's Goku's and his learning to accept what his heritage is, his redefining of it with Vegeta into something good instead of bad.

And the heritage he then goes to leave for his children.

Comparing the story of the name kakarot and what it represents to deadnaming is a pretty wild misunderstanding of what toriyama played out over the years.

Gotta remember this is a story about martial arts written by a Japanese man. Heritage, acceptance and not blaming yourself for the sins of your ancestors are all major themes at play.

Deadnaming while it might on the surface have some cross over. It very much not really at play here in anyway that would be a good faith example.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't say I am that familiar with the source material, its been a long time since I watched DBZ. You could argue that rather than deadnaming, its closer to a nickname perhaps? Or a pseudonym? We all go by different names in different contexts (IRL/online/work), so maybe its closer to that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's meant to be a story of accepting your heritage regardless of the fact they were horrific. Not blaming yourself for those sins, and doing your best regardless so you can leave that heritage in a better state for your children.

Remember DBZ was written by a Japanese man. For as much as DBZ is a silly shonen about muscular men beating each other to death and screaming.

It's also a story about honor, heritage, family, and self improvement.

Kakarot is very close to a case of finding out your adopted and your fathers last name was Hitler.

Realizing you arnt like your father, improving yourself and making a fresh clean start to the name. So both your adoptive family and your blood families name are honorable and clean.

And that your kids will be proud to share a name with a good man, for he proves that we are all masters of our own density and actions. That your forefathers do not define you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

See, when I watched it, I was 12, and it was about punching and shouting at baddies. And selling kids toys :D

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Vegeta : What's your gender?

Goku : Fighting

Vegeta : I mean what do you identify as?

Goku : A super Saiyan

Vegeta : What's in your pants?!

Goku : Pure Ki energy

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Considering he didn’t understand as a child that staring at Bulma naked was not appropriate, I’m not surprised he doesn’t know what a penis is.

EDIT: Yes I read that conversation as the voices of Christopher Sabat and Sean Schemmel.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

He's got two kids and I'm still pretty sure he doesn't know how that happened.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

Dragonbased.