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As it turns out it doesn't actually cost that much on regular transit, there's an AIRPORT SURCHARGE because it's an "airport train".

No wonder Americans don't use public transit, even when the system exists it's ridiculously difficult and expensive to use.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People pay to ride the train?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Some good-two shoes do, most do, but alot of people dont. hence reddit had whole host of people being, caught,evading fares,, you got people on there being a know it all, and you should be paying your fare share.

Oh for bay area, there are specific times of the year, that inspectors come out in droves to "ticket" as much people as possible, usually its around summer-to fall, and then maybe winter. there has been discussion how the evasion tickets are much more than TRAFFIC tickets/parking tickets. right now is about 135$ for each violation, and there are all sorts of tricks to avoid that even if yuo get ticketed. there is alot of justification for evading fares.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I pay my taxes, which I’m told goes to public transit, and there was a huge scandal with the transit department in my state a while back where we found out they were fucking everyone over and skimming a fucked up amount of money and the state did pretty much nothing about it, so when the transit department is stealing less from public transit than I am I’ll consider it, but I also feel that public transit should be free, especially if I’m already paying for it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

our taxes pay for it already, only amount to under 20% in fares of the budget. but federal govt decided it wasnt enough to give them money for the budget, so all these underhanded inspections have occured over the years. now with trump in power, the money coming from federal is even less certain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

As I said, if they decide to stop fucking us over I’ll decide to stop fucking them over. Also, my state was taxing enough to line the pockets of the conservative representatives that are bleeding the state dry on every other front of politics and social structure and ecology on top of this, which is why nobody had to face any music over the bullshit they’re continuing to pull, if they have problems with people not paying five bucks to go ten blocks then that is a problem they created and a problem for them to solve. And with the price gouging they are doing with the sea of university students having to bus or train from three districts away because they can’t afford dorms or housing in the city, my 8 block jump to work isn’t taking the food off of anyone’s table.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

There's a lot of reasons public transport isn't popular in the US. Where I live the homeless, some of whom are mentally ill, occupy the light rail trains and stations to escape the brutal cold during the winter. My friend's wife came home crying after finding a turd on a train seat. The cost is $5 for a day pass, far less than a downtown parking spot and it's not confusing at all though service is sparse

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

i thinks purposely designed that way, because the auto-companies have killed public transportation in the past, local govt simply never had the motivation to build out the infrastructure. the most famous is LA history.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In Toronto, you get free transfers for 2 hours for $3. I can run an errand across the city and come back for a single fixed price.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

it used to 90min for the longest time in sf, like decades. until recently.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I actually lived there for most of my life, NY's metro does not compare. Only in-station transfers are free, one every 2hr. If you need to transfer from the 2 to the C in Brownsville, godspeed. Half the time it charges you anyways when it's not supposed to. Don't get me started on the lack of connection between the G and Atlantic, and the non-existent M loop.

Toronto is still about 50 cents cheaper via the exchange rate. Transit is far more reliable, and the average subway station is waaaaay nicer.

Fuck the MTA

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

You only get unlimited transfers in NYC until you leave a station. You get 1 reentrance or switch to / from a bus per 2 hours.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've never been to Toronto but I'll be there next week. Parking is a mess where I'm staying near downtown, I may use this!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Parking honestly isn't terrible but a lot of it is residency based, so yeah it's harder as a visitor. I think you can get a temporary visitor parking pass at City Hall depending on how long you're staying for.

For the TTC (titty sea!), download the Presto app ahead of time or buy a Presto card when you get here. Also be sure to check out the PATH!

You picked a lovely time to visit, the weather is wonderful right now! (Aside from the week of rain we just had)

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