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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Can you imagine if Joe Biden said shit like "I'm going to make your pleb shit more expensive because I refuse to just admit a mistake and therefore will double down on my bad policy."

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 day ago (28 children)

you fucking idiot, it's NEVER EVER EVER coming to the US.

NEVER.

a 25% increase in cost is still MUCH more preferable to bringing all of that shit to the US. probably by orders of magnitude. can you even fathom (of course you can't) what you would need to do to have a 100% American iphone?

let's say you're bringing the iphone manufacturing plant to the US. let's even assume this move is subsidized so the new factory is going to cost only time.

the iphone isn't put together from mere atoms. parts of it need to be manufactured first. there's the screen, the glass, the aluminum case, several cameras, the battery, the ram, the storage, the CPU, the GPU, the receiver, accelerometer, gyroscope, etc etc... how much of that shit do you think is made in the USA?

so there's tariffs an all of that. or to avoid them you need to make several new factories, and have other companies that provide these things also move their factories... and these factories don't just have people create electronics by hand. you need machines. where do you think those are made? who makes them? so now you need the manufacturers of manufacturing robots to move their factories to the US.

and all these factories now employ people with much higher salaries.

all in all, a move like that would halt production for years and when it comes back every iphone would probably cost $47000.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (4 children)

John Oliver did a segment on this about a month ago, but yeah, you just nailed it.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The more I think about it doesn't trump just want to raise taxes without explicitly raising taxes.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I bet Tim Apple is really happy about his large donation to the Trump inauguration.

Then again, if you're that rich, maybe having some intelligence and foresight should be an expectation. If you don't have those things, maybe you shouldn't be rich.

That said, for a 25% tariff, it isn't even close. Still far cheaper for Apple to manufacture outside of the US and pass that additional cost to the US consumer.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Apple spent millions per year in fines for decades just because Steve Jobs didn’t want illuminated fire exit signs polluting the decor of his Apple stores. Their cash reserves exceed $150bn. They won’t do anything they don’t want to do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Little Donnie diaper, if you know so much about iPhones then you make them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Thank you very much Tim Apple

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In British slang if you fart we sometimes say you Trump, or Trumpet. Can we refer to Trumps posts and speeches as Trumpets?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I played the trumpet for several years and I love that instrument. It's bad enough that the names coincide; please don't make it worse 😭

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Trump says..." A load of fucking bollocks, to be frank. You can rest assured what he says is the opposite of reality. He's a pathological liar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Not even sure at this point if he can bring himself to say a single true thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He did say he would fuck his daughter if she weren't his daughter.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Which part is the lie? That he wouldn't fuck his daughter if she weren't his daughter or that he would fuck his daughter if she were his daughter?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can someone calculate how much an iPhone would cost if manufactured in the USA?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

With more automation wouldn't it possibly cost less than this? On Taiwan the balance between automation and human labor is due to their costs of labor and automation.

In any case more expensive than on Taiwan, though.

If US cost of labor drops sharply due to a few bubbles exploding, or a few nukes explode somewhere causing harm to world economy, then having such plants already in place might be retrospectively considered a wise decision.

Consumer hardware is now being used in wars on scale, changing all balances. So I think everybody is going to do what Trump is doing. Keep complex processes inside if they have the knowledge and ability, and try to gain knowledge and ability if they don't.

I don't think it's bad. Socialists will finally see a situation which their ideology fits best. Industrial specialties, even worker-level ones, teach people to think in a way making idiotic websites in some modern framework doesn't.

All that, of course, is sometime after the hellish hell we're going to see making us work to achieve it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Will the US factories have suicide nets too, or is that reserved for Taiwan?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I thought the nets were in the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago

Nah in the US they just let them die

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Who is Tim Cook of Apple? Why does it sound like Trump is talking about Tim Apple?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Tim “Cook of” Apple

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thats hilarious as usual when it comes to Trump. :)

And the tone... I expect... The president for a few months, who has been in jail and is full of lies, expects someone, which he doesnt know by the right name, to comply with arbitrary rules...

What a guy.

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