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I hated camping as a child because I had no say in where, when, or for how long. As an adult I'm not camping alone as a woman. My husband would just die in the wilderness, it's not kind to a guy with cerebral palsy.
I enjoy it even when it's not wilderness camping-- drive up to a site with a level of facilities you're comfortable with (toilet, sinks, etc), have a little bbq, do some stargazing, sleep with some nature sounds, drive home. I know those kinds of places aren't near everyone but camping doesn't have to be bushwhacking or backpacking.
It was lots of tents and pain until my mother said absolutely not and then it was a lot of KOA sites. That was fine! I wouldn't mind like...being in a remote cabin.
I want indoor plumbing. We worked hard to invent that as humans, I respect it.
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You wouldn't have made it though the paleolithic era bro. You don't have the survival instincts ᵃⁿᵈ ᵃˡˢᵒ ᶦᵗ ˡᵃˢᵗᵉᵈ ˡᶦᵏᵉ ³ ᵐᶦˡˡᶦᵒⁿ ʸᵉᵃʳˢ ᵒʳ ˢᵒᵐᵉᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᵃⁿᵈ ⁿᵒᵇᵒᵈʸ ʰᵃˢ ᵉᵛᵉʳ ˡᶦᵛᵉᵈ ᶠᵒʳ ᵗʰᵃᵗ ˡᵒⁿᵍ ˢᵒ ᶠᵃʳ
There's two types of camping: (1) outdoor camping, which is the shitty one ; and (2) indoor, which has pillow forts.
Jon, Arbuckle?
This entire post reads "I don't know how to camp/go backpacking.
Get yourself a travel air mattress or sleeping pad, probably a better sleeping bag. Solves the lack of sleep and sore back.
Get a proper tent that's water proof and learn how to set it up properly so water doesn't pool under it. Make sure the vents have good mosquito netting to keep bugs our, and never have the entry unzipped a second longer than it takes to get in and out of.
For the mice, don't have food in unsealed containers and if you're in bear country you should be hanging a bear bag at least 100 feet (30m~ ) from you campsite, make sure cook wear and utensils are all properly cleaned too. Some newer tents even have a pouch built in near the door to seal a bag into, minimizing the chance of something deciding to make it a new home.
All this.
I went camping in MN when it was 27 degrees F overnight a month ago. Slept like a baby. Nice and cozy. It was really nice. Camping is great if you do it right.
That's why I bought a camper van.
all of that and yet somehow i feel better than ever
Someone wasn't in the scouts.
Seriously. Mice? Are they homeless?
So many fragile campers in the comments. It's ok if people don't like your hobby. They might not find it worth the time, money, and effort to "get good". You don't have to defend the things you like from people who aren't into it.
Where are these comments?
Yeah, that's a good faith question. Blocking you.
Speaking of fragility
I would normally agree with you on the “get good” sentiment being obnoxious to deal with but…. nature doesn’t fuck around. People who go into the wilderness unprepared can and do die.
It’s not just bears and starvation that can kill you. You can get sick, get infections, get poisoned, get frostbite, hypothermia, heat stroke, and many other afflictions that will either ruin your trip, ruin your life, or kill you if you’re unlucky enough. Even just something as simple as scraping your knee on a rock can give you a staph infection that costs you your leg, a risk that can be averted just by wearing a pair of jeans when walking in the woods.
But besides all that: camping is way more enjoyable when you do some basic research, make a plan, and do the basic preparations you need for the plan to be successful. If you’re not willing to do that then you probably shouldn’t go camping in the first place!
Go to bed earlier
Never leave your tent open longer than the time necessary to get in or out of it.
Store your equipment in sealed containers when not in use (make sure to wash and dry it first!)
Self-inflating sleeping pad + better tent location solves the painful and damp sleeping conditions.
You can have an equally bad time staying at a hotel, if you do it wrong too.
I hate camping too lol, but I like staying in nature in a little cabin or lodge haha
The only thing I really struggle with is shitting in the woods. Everything else is manageable.
More fiber.
Also, if you wait long enough, it won't be a struggle.
Depending on how far you need to travel, just bring a 5 gallon bucket with a hole cut in the bottom. Flip it over and shit through the hole. Portable toilet.
I don't necessarily mean struggle with the act, it's just the nature of it.
I like plumbing, I'm particularly attached to it.
If you're attached to your plumbing I think someone put glue on your toilet seat