Weirdly, it stops there for a looooooooooong time
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AIX is not dead yet.
SCO died by self inflicted gunshot wounds.
Unfortunately, I have a very large client whose core business app runs on SCO still. They're coming up on year 10 on their migration attempt.
Let me guess. A aged purpose built program used for something like inventory and accounting. Built with something like cobol or pascel. With a set of specific feature set that they are unable to or unwilling to pay for a updated rewrite?
Eventually will be just BSD
Amen, freebsd crew represent!
And to anybody throwing shade:
BSD is literally the #1 mobile os, and has been for years, even if the kernel has extra chromosomes.
even if the kernel has extra chromosomes.
Okay, that is a hilarious way of saying those forks are back of the short bus βssssspecialβ.
I actually love the theory of the Mach nanokernel, I just also think Apple went their own way with it, defeating the purpose entirely.
Bless your heart.
I use hpux everyday. Mostly it still runs what it needs to run and the hardware for the most part is a tank so you don't have to think about it.
When it breaks it's the most infuriating thing in the world. All the hardware is bespoke and obsolete, old unix is maddening coming from modern Linux, it's a nightmare but kind of fun at the same time. My only hope that HP will open source it at the end of the year.
I spent so much time working with Solaris, in a weird way I kinda miss it
You can still run Illumos/OpenIndiana, driver support will be spotty though
SerenityOS has some relevance and its new.
The only one of these I never used was AIX. My first unix was Unixware.
There are a lot of hobby Unix-like OS's however. I don't see the point in most of them, but still.
You also forgot macOS. It's a shitty "UNIX-certified" OS though.
Its a BSD derivat tho.
In a sense, NextStep is the only one of the old Unix vendors to still have a significant install base.
Good, almost all of them were horrible, like AIX.
AIX is still alive and kicking if anyone still wants that "Linux but on hard mode" experience.
smit is good, smit is god. Kneel before smit.
Where BeOS?
...beOS wasn't really a POSIX system, but NeXTstep might fit alongside the others...
NeXTSTEP (and therefore, modern macOS) is a BSD.
Irix is missing. It was quite cool at the time. (Well, its desktop was).
SCO crashed and burned in part because they tried to sue multiple Linux providers claiming that they owned all the rights to certain pieces of code that they'd contractually leased from IBM, and that IBM giving code to Linux distributors violated the terms of their agreement with IBM. It was a lawsuit that dragged on for over a decade and a half--I think that it's still going--and it's bled SCO of tens of millions of dollars ,esp. since they've lost nearly every single claim they've made.
Msft funded them for a while to do this:
They tried to use the DMCA for header files in the source. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/03/12/22/1815224/sco-invokes-dmca-names-headers-novell-steps-in
SCO Unix was mostly dead before then (not fully dead, just smelled like it). They were never the most popular Unix vendor to begin with. Caldera--a commercial Linux distro--had bought them out, and that's when the legal trouble started.
All those old vendors tended to have one specific thing they were really good at. IIRC, the thing for SCO was that they could load up hundreds of users on a single box on 1990s hardware. No small feat when the traditional Unix model needs to fork() a process for login/shell/whatever.
It's been a long time since I worked on that case, and I only did a very small part working on the discovery documents, so I've forgotten a lot, and had a lot of details a little confused. :)
It sounds like it was probably one of the seminal patent troll cases.
Copyright, yes. And a lot of this is corporate history rather than the legal portion.
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