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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They know how to navigate the phone in a corporate-approved way better than I do, but they have no idea how any of it works.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

It's real. My 3 yr old can't speak his mother tongue properly but can use phone like an adult

[–] [email protected] 104 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (6 children)

Unfun fact: due to growing up with tablets instead of normal computers a lot of kids nowadays don't know how stuff like directories work.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago

(Your Steam games all live in a folder called “steamapps” — when was the last time you clicked on that?)

A few days ago, because I'm constantly tinkering with them to add mods, remove unskippable opening movies, etc. Video games are undeniably why I know what I do about directory structures and the like.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The stated article is from 2017. That’s not about kids growing up with tablets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Sep 22, 2021

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

most kids today are technologically illiterate. We didn't call anyone who watched a ton of tv a tech-wiz, because tv was just a device made for consumption of content. Even though the tv uses electricity to work

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's not just kids. Some of the phone/tablet kids are in their 20s now. They have no idea what a file or folder/directory is. When greeted with dialog boxes on PC they just click OK or next until they go away without reading at all. They're just as bad as most people in their 80s trying to use a computer. Oh and they can't type to save their life.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (4 children)

More worryingly, shoving them in front of a tablet every time they’re being difficult means they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

Difference between my daughter and her cousins is night and day. Few studies confirming this correlation with violent outbursts later in life too now.

Tried giving it her on a plane once and she had no idea what to do with it and sat and played with her toys instead, so not that intuitive. She has a mechanical keyboard hooked up to a Pi instead.

Also your link is broken

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

More worryingly, shoving them in front of ~~a tablet~~ the TV every time they’re being difficult means they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

The thing they're being shoved in front of isn't the problem.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

they don’t learn how to regulate their emotions.

I don't believe there's causation. Kids learn to regulate their emotions from their parents, with or without tablets.

There are plenty of people with no regulation and no tablets. And plenty of well regulated kids with tablets.

Point is, it's a parent problem, not a technology one. Though it's very possible that shitty parents would use tablets as a pacifier. But they could also use TV, or sticking the kids outside all day, or anything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well yes that is what I was referencing. That is how many people use them; out at restaurants, public places, at friends, etc. Often they are watching TV on them anyway.

But outwith that they have a whole host of problems even when used correctly and little upside. Autoplay, bright colors, fast-paced and visually rich interfaces. Locked in 20cm from the screen. Instead of learning to entertain yourself quietly. Engaging with your other senses.

Exception is well developed education apps for cognitive impairments, developmental delays, etc where the crazy engagement the design envokes can be useful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Also your link is broken

It added my instance to the link for some reason, I think I fixed it now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago

Also your link is broken

Guess this guy grew up with a tablet, smh... ~/j~

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Working at a university I have seen some astounding shit; people just barely 10 years younger than me who can’t read analog clocks or make change let alone use a mouse or move a file to a flash drive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Some of that's cultural momentum right? Like I don't know how many pickles it takes to make a Peck of Pickles despite hours singing about it as a kid. There's not a lot of reason sans-nostalgia to read an analog clock or drive a manual car. (I love my manual, but they're not getting any less niche with EVs on the way.)

And everyone's going to learn something the first time, some time. But it is just nuts that for some people that is apparently after getting a job with a Bachelor's, somehow. So much time, money, and energy was spent in the 90s/00s having computer classes in schools and now so much of it has been cut because the people in charge are so out of touch that watching youtube on a device designed to be easily usable is indistinguishable from "technical skills".

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

No, I don’t think not being able to make change or not stopping touching a screen no matter how many times you are told that it isn’t a touch screen is cultural momentum. I genuinely think that we the older generations have failed Gen Z at a common sense and problem solving level and I very much hope that we don’t keep failing Gen Alpha. I was in school still when no child left behind went into effect and the difference was stark. It was said then that it was designed to create a generation of Republican voters and based on the most recent election it looks like it might have worked.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 hours ago

That's horrifying.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Don't give your kids velcro shoes after about age three. Deal with teaching them to tie them for a few months. No, it's not convenient, but you're doing it for them, not you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

3? Lol, we know you don't have children.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 hours ago

it's not convenient, but you're doing it for them, not you.

All of parenting - especially the difference between good parents and bad parents - summed up in a single sentence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

come on! it's a lot easier to not toilet-train your kids if you can afford all the diapers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I am pretty sure I struggled with that until middle school 💀
I mean, I could do it, but slowly, with a lot of conscious thinking.

And honestly, I still don't know to do it the "correct" way. I mean, bunny ears seem to work just fine anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Left over-and-under right and pull ends tight, then right loop over-and-under left loop, pull both loops tight" was the way I learned. It's just the entire 'letting go then pulling thru' that broke my brain when I was a little kid. Also, fuck Asics, some of their laces won't stay tied unless you epoxy the knot.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

There is no incorrect way. The typical shoelace knot is actually just a square knot, but one where you make the second part out of two loops (bights) rather than the standing ends. What technique you use to arrive there is completely irrelevant as long as the end result is the same.

(You could use a traditional square knot instead if you really wanted to, but it would be annoying to untie.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Go fisherman's knot lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'd guess most people tend to tie grannies rather than squares just because you tend to repeat which hand is wrapping which strand over the other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I was in my 30s when I learned that I needed to go overhand one way then over the other way. Really embarrassing because I had known how to use a square knot since I was 10.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago

easier said than done, but you need to change the way you think about it. don't think about the "steps"; think about why you're taking them. goes for everything else, too. i'm in my forties and i still find times i'm just following "steps" and not considering why.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Bunny ears or a variant thereof is usually more stable anyway. I taught myself a new better way to tie my shoes at 30 something. Now I no longer need to double knot themand they always come undone easily by pulling the ends. Previously, knotting them the way my parents taught, my knots always came undone and the loops didn't lay flat on either side (getting skewed to up and down my foot/leg).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

They taught you to tie a granny knot instead of a square. So did my mom, or she just didn't care likely. I was also in my thirties when I realized it should be a square knot for the base.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 hours ago

This says less about toddlers than it does about what Apple knows the public requires to use a computer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Magicians say toddlers are also good at deciphering their tricks since they haven’t yet learned object permanency.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

your fault, and THANKS for doing this to the people that i'll need to have take care of me when i'm old and feeble. water? like, in the toilet?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

I know, right? It doesn't even have electrolytes. That's not what plants crave.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I don't know if you have seen the level of care cursive knowers give old people but I'm pretty sure you are going to get the same level of care.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago

too true - i've spent far too much time in hospitals these past few years, and the amount of restraint shown by the families of patients is astounding. i've not yet been in a "power of attourney" position, but i'd have been busting heads if i was.