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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (10 children)

This is mostly copied from my reply to another comment:

Parents get tired. In fact, most parents have chronic levels of sleep deprivation which impairs things like concentration, reflexes, ability to pay attention, etc. Then you have parents who might be working multiple jobs, be dealing with health issues that affect sleep, etc. A leash would make that job to keep kids safe much easier.

No leash equals a non-abusive, even though not every situation can allow a parent to keep 100% focus on the child, but using a leash the parent suddenly becomes abusive?

Should a parent not give the kid a helmet when learning to ride a bike then also? Does using a helmet mean the parent is abusive?

I just don't understand this. I cannot fathom that someone would criticize a thing that objectively and provably make life in the world safer for children. It's just another tool to help kids get to grow up.

There are countless stories of children just walking away in the 3 to 5 seconds a parent looks away where the child falls off a height, falls into water (not every parent can swim, and not all waters are swimable), gets picked up by a stranger in a crowd, etc. Situations that a leash would 100% have saved the child's life.

And when these people are confronted on why it's abusive or "embarrassing for the child", they don't have an answer.

They might say something out of left field like "children aren't dogs!", to which I say "yes, you're right. Children aren't dogs. Very good! Now about the leash, why is it abusive?"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Counterpoint: children are people

I grew up with my father working night shifts and my mother being tired all the time, I didn't need a leash.

Children are a lot more capable and resilient if you give them the chance to be, and insulating them from small forms of possible harm doesn't help their development.

Now I am not saying "let your toddler run around a highway" but if you pick a reasonable place for your child to play there's no need for a fucking leash 99% of the time.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (6 children)

children are people

Very good! I'd give you a sticker, but I don't know where you live.

insulating them from small forms of possible harm doesn't help their development.

And a leash doesn't do that. Being a hover parent does.

if you pick a reasonable place for your child to play there's no need for a fucking leash 99% of the time.

What? Is that how you people think using a leash works? You think a leash is put on the child in the morning and isn't taken off until the end of the day? Are you for real with that? Forget it, you don't get a sticker for saying the dumbest thing I've heard today. And I've already watched a video about a flat earther.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Children aren't pets.

Pets aren't children

Putting someone to a leash is degrading for humans. I know that there are exceptions, but If you are putting children on a leash, you are mostly seen as a bad parent and probably you are. Also: dogs are on a leash mostly for safety reasons for others.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I find it very interesting that you have absolutely equated a leash with a pet and with degradation.

I have a cat, he's not on a leash. Is he my child now? Or does that just mean he's *not" my pet?

dogs are on a leash mostly for safety reasons for others.

That's not entirely true. For example, dogs don't understand traffic and that running across a street is dangerous (well, most dogs. Some dogs are just very smart). Keeping them on a leash minimizes the chance that it darts across the street because it sees something it wants to get. The owner put the dog on a leash because they understand that doing so will keep the dog safe from injury. The owner recognizes that the dog doesn't understand the dangers involved.

An infant also doesn't understand (can't understand) the dangers. Putting them on a leash protects them from that danger. But it also helps the child develop independence, helps them exercise, helps them learn to walk better, helps their mental development from being able to explore and interact with the world.

Compared to just being carried or stuck in a stroller, which is ultimately boring and doesn't help at all with the motor skills, and is far less impactful with mental development as they can only observe and not interact with.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

but If you are putting children on a leash, you are mostly seen as a bad parent and probably you are.

100% you aren't a parent.

I've never put a leash on my kid because I didn't frequent extremely busy crowds. But leashes are great for kids. It gives them the feeling of self autonomy to explore, while keeping them safe.

Anyone who says they're bad has never experienced turning your back for 0.68 seconds and then realizing your kid is already gone off somewhere. They are fast.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

AFAIK it's acceptable if the parent is walking or sitting with the child. It's only abusive if you tie the leash outside while you go run some errands in a store, or if left attached in the backyard.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why you left them in the car

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They like the warmth. It sends them to sleep.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People like pets. Nobody likes children.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This one guy always hanged at our playground and really did seem to like children. Always had candy on the back of his van as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I like them when they hit age 10-11 or so and their logic circuits start to kick in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But when they're really young you can do things like convince them that trees walk and that's why trees in cities are in those little cages or pens. (They do actually use their roots to pull themselves around a bit, but it takes a very long time for the amount of movement to be noticeable.)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

That's actually a common practice in some areas. I saw people doing it in London for example.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

I've seen it in Europe a few times. Sometimes children just want to be a menace and a leash is the only thing to keep them safe. Or so the parents say.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Says who?

I've seen plenty of small kids on wrist leashes since the 80's.

Also, there's a vast difference between a kid and even a dog, when it comes to autonomy - your goal is to slowly develop a kid's autonomy so they can be independent. Some kids/circumstances can be very challenging to negotiate safely.

With dogs, you have to do the reverse - condition them so they'll want to defer their autonomy to you. And with some dogs, even with the best, most capable trainers in the world they'll still dart after that rabbit or whatever catches their eye.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 days ago

Cats prefer new hoomans on leash like dog

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If I had a kid they'd 100% be on a leash in public to an uncomfortable age.

In reality I'd probably just shove an ipad in front of their face and call it a day, like the rest of my peers.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Dad.....I'm 22....."

"And you're still not to be trusted!"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

As a former 22 year old, I should have absolutely been on a leash

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