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I'm looking for something that can do chat, video calling with support for guess links and chats. I need it to work in the browser so I can send people a link to a chat session. Bonus if it has a simple mobile app and calendar integration.

Anyone know of something that isn't Nextcloud Chat?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Matrix with the Jitsi meet plugin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I already made a comment but you should also look at rocketchat and revolt, since they are basically FOSS discord clones

(I saw comments in the thread about wanting audio only calls.)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

I've been using self-hosted Jitsi Meet for a few weeks now. Works perfectly. Haven't tried the calendar feature, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use jami but i dont think it fits your need for guess links.

Still leave it here just in case

https://jami.net/

Jami is a free/libre, end-to-end encrypted, and private communication software.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Jami is a stability and security nightmare

I wouldn't recommend it

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Please tell us more about the actual security problems!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Have you actually dug into the internals? It is pretty bad. Large poorly maintained code base with poor cryptography. Theoretically it is fine but I'd rather use Signal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

No, I rarely read the code of software I use, especially crypto code since thant's not my thing. But good to know that you did. Thanks for your opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's true there are a lot of better alternatives to jami when it comes to privacy/security: Here's a good comparison table:

https://www.messenger-matrix.de/messenger-matrix-en.html

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Im using it for 3 months now and I did not notice any stability issue. One time I experienced a long delay in receiving a message.

Do you have any details on why its a security nightmare?

All communications are peer-to-peer and end-to-end encrypted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

It is a massive code base which doesn't seem to get a lot of maintenance due to lack of developers. Jami also lacks a security audit which doesn't build confidence

From a security perspective it uses dTLS which isn't great for metadata sensitive applications. Message delivery is also finicky since it depends on peers working reliably.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Care to expand on that? I am seriously considering that as part of my post-skype future.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I would look into Jami, Signal and maybe Simplex Chat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

If you don't mind seperated tools that do well in their own :

  • Zulip for chat
  • Jitsi for video meeting
  • And whatever calendar you want for the calendar
[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Huly is pretty amazing and has a self host option. It supports chats and video calls, team rooms, and has some cool integration for speech to text note taking. It also functions as a task tracker.

Under super active development right now so host only if you can deal with occasional breaking changes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cloud based solutions in selfhosted are a hilarious suggestion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I'm selfhosting it on box next to me. Wasn't so hard for me to find the GitHub link on their website.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Considering

  • nearly a curl|sh setup
  • to run supply-chain risks
  • of supply-chain risks
  • for something without an immutable artefact and thus is its own supply-chain risk

It's already breaking ISO27002 in a few ways. I'm out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Idk, I've heard things about HooliChat... Didn't their stream go down in the middle of a big title fight?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Plus that Gavin Belson guy keeps trying to jam his horrible signature into his products.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

That guy is the woooorst

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What's their revenue model? Thanks for sharing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

They have a SaaS option as well, I'm guessing that's the main revenue plan.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

I would suggest avoiding anything that is a "community" or "personal use only". If its not fully open its not worth it.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

You want either mattermost or the whole matrix stack (backend, plus element with voice/video calls).

Matrix/Element is more of a discord alternative, whereas mattermost tries to be more of a slack alternative, where it seems to have some calendar integrations.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I haven’t tried it myself but Mattermost offers most of what you’re looking for.

https://github.com/mattermost

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

I think a gitlab install has most of mattermost inside it, and that means installation and updates are handled. I found the install of MatterMost via its devs used to be very naive, but the gitlab people did something right in vendoring it into their massive install. Gitlab-ce is bloated as heck, but it's fire-and-forget on the proper platform and may allow inter-org linking with or without the matter bridge thing (which itself affords some interoperability).

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