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For instance, a foot...is basically a foot length. So there's this foot-measuring waddle some people do walking literally heel-to-toe to get a general sense of the space. An inch is kinda a finger width, etc (they're all not perfect by any sense).

I've decided to just take the plunge and basically re-learn all my measurement systems because I'm seeing less and less of those being used. I started with just memorizing all the conversions but that's literally just adding another step. Everything I own basically has settings to switch or show both measurements (like tape measures) so I'm just going to stop using Fahrenheit and the United states "Customary System" all together.

Any tips or things you're taught or pick up on? There's a funny primary school poem for conversion of customary liquid measurements,

Land of Gallon

Introducing capacity measurement to learners can be challenging. To make this topic more accessible and memorable, we can integrate creative and interactive activities into our teaching approach. Using storytelling, we can transform the sometimes daunting task of learning measurement conversions into a whimsical tale.

  • In the Land of Gallon, there were four giant Queens.
  • Each Queen had a Prince and a Princess.
  • Each Prince and Princess had two children.
  • The two children were twins, and they were eight years old.

Once students are familiar with the story be sure they see the connection between the story characters and the customary units of capacity measurement. If necessary, label the story pieces with their corresponding units of measure: queen = quart, prince/princess = pint, children = cups, 8 years old = 8 fluid ounces. You can reduce the number of customary units in the story based on student readiness. link

tl;dr looking for anything to remember the hierarchy and memorizing the metric and Celsius measurement system, sometimes explained in schooling or local sayings. (if I had an example for those systems I would give one lol).

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[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's weird i know my measurement in both metric and imperial because when I was a child i learnt to play lawn bowls and all the old people measured everything in inches feet and yards, then when I became a mechanic there's the three spanner sets so I can do all those.

As for tips, I worked out my own pace count for 100 meters, and at my old workshop we had meter increments on the floor so you could work out what kinda goofy arse step you need to take for 1 meter.

Temperature obviously 0 is frozen water 100 boiling anything over 40 is damn hot outside but that one varies for person to person.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Man you got some giant feet and sausage fingers lol

[–] hexthismess@hexbear.net 6 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's great that the units are linked like this. I actually had to use this once. I didn't have a container to measure out 1liter of water, but I did have a kitchen scale that could measure 1,000 grams! πŸ™ŒπŸ½

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[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 34 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A good base is knowing milli is a thousandth and kilo is a 1000 1000 milligram = a gram, 1000 grams = a kilogram 1000 millililters = a liter, 1000 liters = a kiloliter 1000 millimeters = a meter, 1000 meters = a kilometer

Plus, they're all connected. 1 gram of water is 1 milliliter and takes up 1 cubic centimeter.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (8 children)

A good base is knowing milli is a thousandth and kilo is a 1000

YES! I feel like a common pitfall people run into is trying to bust out all sorts of fancy prefixes, deka, hecto, centi, deci, etc and then people get overwhelmed by all of that.

The most common prefixes are kilo 1000x or milli 1/1000. That's all you should focus on.

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[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Get ruler. Hold your arm out 90degrees, Measure from the tip of your finger 1 metreacross your body, and rember where that Metre ends on your body. Then you always have a reference for 1metre

[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I was taught this to measure electrical cable. For me it's from my left shoulder bone to my right finger tips (or the right shoulder to left finger tips)

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

1 cm is about the width of the tip of your pinky finger.

1 m is about the distance from your nose to your fingertips if you hold your arm out, and extend your fingers.

100 m is the length of the straight section of an athletic track, which is about the same length as a football field.

1 mL is about the volume of the tip of your pinky finger.

1 L is about 1 quart, which is half a carton of milk (unless you get milk in the smaller 1 quart size).

The mile-to-km conversion is pretty close to 1Β½.

The kg-to-pound conversion is two-and-a-bit.

A difference of 1Β°C is close to a difference of 2Β°F.

Edit: My milk comparison was wrong - I've corrected it.

Edit: Of course by "m" I meant "mile"

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 3 points 2 weeks ago

I raised my kids using metric temperature for weather. Now that they're older they hold me to it!

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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

For Celsius:

30 is warm

20 is nice

10 is chilly

0 is ice

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

YES! Do it brother! πŸ‘ I'm US born and raised and I've voluntarily switched to metric a while ago. Metric is actually more intuitive to me now.

I started with just memorizing all the conversions but that’s literally just adding another step.

Personally, I think this is a mistake. What worked for me was to start building reference points in metric directly. No conversions.

  • yes: "Oh, it's nice outside. What temperature is it? 20C, great. I'll remember I like 20C."
  • no: "I like 70F, what's that in Celsius?"
  • yes: "Wow. That's long board. How long is it? 2m, great. I'll remember 2m is long."
  • no: "What's 6ft to meters?"

Don't ask, "What's this in metric?" just ask directly "How long/fast/heavy/hot is this thing?"

You need to get out there and start measuring and experiencing stuff. Measure parts of your body to build more reference points. For example, I know from the floor to my waist is about 1m, from the tip of my index finger to the first bend line is about 2.5cm. My weight is about 65kg. Normal body temperature is about 37C, but 38C and above is a fever. My mom's house is about 30km away.

Switching temperature to C is pretty easy, that's a good start. Here are some other tools that may help.

Also, did you know Amazon US limits the products available to us? But you can break out and shop from Amazon Japan, for example, and get products that aren't available from Amazon US. I've found that Amazon Japan has way more metric-only options than other places.

I really like buying metric only tools because:

  • it removes the possibility of relapse, forcing you to build new reference points
  • it removes the possibility of other people messing with the units
  • it removes clutter from the UI, making it easier to use

Eventually, you could switch your car too, but I wouldn't recommend you do that right now. After a few months, you'll start getting the hang of metric more. It really doesn't take that long to adjust.

P.S. Does anyone know where I could get some metric-only measuring ~~cups~~ cans, containers, vessels?

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if the reference thingy works for languages too.

Because thats why Kids are soo good at learning languages while adults have more issues learning new languages. Mainly because they want to see the word translations, etc. That would be hard for japanese or chinese I think as they work entirely different

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I second this! I was in the US for a while and quickly realised that doing constant conversions was a PITA, so I learned some rough reference points in imperial.

I think it's good to get some small and some large reference points, which make it easy to guesstimate other things based on what you know. Mine were (given in metric here):

  • A glass of beer is 0.5 L.
  • A big barrel is about 200L (0.2 m^3).
  • My walk to work is 3 km, a long hike is 25 km.
  • A very short person is about 150 cm, a very tall one is about 2 m.
  • I can deadlift about 100 kg, and bicep curl around 15 kg.
  • A potato is on the order of 100g, while a watermelon is around 2kg.
  • 70 C is a nice sauna, 25 C is a nice summer day, 10 C is chilly, 0 C is sleet-temperature, -10 C is powder snow cold (depending on where you live the colder temps might be more or less relevant)

Figure out some similar things for yourself, and it'll be relatively easy to think along lines like "That walk was a bit further than my way to work, so it's probably about 4km", or "that box was heavy, but far from 100 kg, so it's maybe around 30 kg."

Bonus points if you try some guessing like that and double check afterwards to tune in your feeling for different measurements.

[–] Ing0R@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As a European, I have never used measuring cups. Our recepies call for ingredients to be measured in Milliliters for water and milk and Grams for everything else. We use cans like these for volume measurements: https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/204600175_-messbecher-935000-0-5-liter-bruchsicher-huenersdorff.html

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

never used measuring cups ... We use cans

Sure, yeah, that's what I meant. Some physical artifact I can use to measure liquid in ml.

https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/204600175_-messbecher-935000-0-5-liter-bruchsicher-huenersdorff.html

These look perfect! Thanks!

[–] stray@pawb.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Meters is extra easy if you've played Minecraft because you know you need a two-block height for head clearance, and you can estimate the sizes of other things from there.

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[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

I just learned some basic things and go from there.

A Ruler is Ruler 12 inches or 30 cm

A meter is roughly equivalent to a yard slightly more and both are like 1 big step

And then i just remember that theres 2.2 lbs per kg

1.6 kms per mile

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

For temperature:

Water freezes at 0, boils at 100. Room temperature 20 degrees Celsius. Normal body temp 37 degrees.

Trivia of minus 40 Fahrenheit being the same as minus 40 Celsius.

Height and weight are usually still thought of in imperial (canadian here), so I think of myself as 6'2", instead of 188 cm.

Volumes and lengths and weights are related. One cubic cm is one mL of liquid. One cubic centimeter of water weighs one gram. One thousand mL of water makes one Liter, which weighs one kilogram.

2.205 ponds makes one kilogram.

Shifting between miles and km is a pain in the ass, given the 1.6 km per mile.

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

1 mL (or cubic centimeter) of water weighs 1g, not 1 mg. 1 mg would be 1 microliter of water, or one millionth of a liter.

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[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

1 calorie is the heat required to increase the temperature of 1 ml of water by 1 degree

[–] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Miles and Kilometers are very close to the golden ratio. So adjacent Fibonacci numbers can be used to approximate them.

5 mi is about 8 km

8 mi is about 13 km

etc

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago

This advice is also golden!

[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Fellow American convert to the metric system. Converting, in my opinion, won't get you very far in actually understanding the measurements. To this day, the conversion rate is something I have to dig through my memory for.

For me what helped with the temperature scale was breaking it into chunks based on what I would wear, 10Β°-15Β° would be a pullover sweatshirt, 15Β°-20Β° a track jacket, etc, which got me to stop focusing so much on the conversion. Eventually you just get a sense of these things, I think that most people can only really feel a difference in air temperature of about 1Β°C. 0Β° being the freezing point cutoff is super helpful for judging things like potential road conditions if it's wet.

For distances I first got the sense of how far things were in kilometers by being a runner and knowing distances around my neighborhood as to how they lined up with running a 5k, 10k, etc. For meters, at my height and gait, my stride length is about a meter long. A little bit on the shorter side of things, but it still helped me get an idea as to what a meter looked like in physical space, even if it's off a bit. Centimeters and millimeters are a different story. Hard to find perfect analogs in the world, but you'll find something eventually. I think for example long grain rice can be ~1 cm in length for example.

The biggest lesson in my own journey and seeing a lot of people online talk about trying to do the conversion is that people get overly concerned with precision when first making the switch. If you actually think about most of our daily interactions with measurements, they're much more approximate. For example, the difference between whether it's 71Β°F or 73Β°F is rarely pointed out. The temperature is just "in the low 70s". We say that something is "about 20 miles away" which is almost an implicit 7-8 mile range. I would guess 80% of the time, this is how we interact with the units we use, so focus on that. No one is going to get upset if they ask the temperature and you're off by a few degrees C.

In terms of mnemonics like US kids get in school for some of these things, everything in the metric system is a multiple of 10 from everything else, which is what makes it great. Also remember that at room temperature, water's density is 1 g/mL, so if one of capacity or weight is easier to visualize for you, it's a shortcut to the other. Standard disposable water bottle in the US is 500 mL or half a kilogram of water.

If only metric time had caught on too....

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

The biggest lesson in my own journey and seeing a lot of people online talk about trying to do the conversion is that people get overly concerned with precision when first making the switch.

YES! I think this is because they're converting back to imperial units. You can always tell when someone was thinking in imperial because the metric units are like 17.4C or 8.12mm or 98.7km/h. For sure, things don't need to be that precise. When I convert either way I always convert to a nice number. 100 km/h -> 60mi/h

It's just like translating language, you don't translate the literal words of a sentence, you translate the overall idea.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

I've heard something like: 30 is hot, 20 is nice, 10 is cold and 0 is ice.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Good information, I've been doing the temperature thing more and more but for cooking I haven't switched (gonna have to refigure the food safety guidelines so I'm not putting myself in danger on that one).

I think you've convinced me to officially do a marathon, that seems like a great and healthy way to consider the larger distances and wrap my head around it!

[–] donuts@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

~~We don't really need any of those mnemonics because it's a perfect system~~

More seriously there is the "King Henry Died, Drinking Chocolate Milk" for the Kilo (1000) Hecto (100) Deca (10), Deci (0.1) Centi (0.01) Milli (0.001), but that doesn't really help with measuring on the spot, aside from being able to get the prefix right.

There's an average step being 1 meter, but thats less useful for people with shorter legs unless they want to join the ministry of silly walks.

One that I use often is converting meters per second to kilometers per hour. Because 1 meter per second is 3600 meters per hour or 3.6 kilometers per hour, you can actually skip the multiply by 3600 and then divide by 1000 and just multiply by 3.6.

But aside from time conversions, there isn't really anything else that can help because it's just moving the decimal.

Slightly related, you can tell how far away lightning is by listening for the thunder and counting the seconds. Sound travels at 346 m/s so every 3 seconds is roughly 1 kilometer away. But I suppose you can do the same for miles and count to 5.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ty for the Mnemonic, definitely something I was looking for and even responded to someone else with the musical treble clef one. The thunder one will definitely help and something that can be passed onto kids (everyone basically knows the miles one). I'm gonna have to start compiling a list because all of you are awesome and there's a lot of information on here.

Just wish signs in the states were posted with KPH as well but that's extremely rare, I still associate maps with mileage and arrivals based on MPH so will be harder to transition that then anything else I imagine (120 miles away so about 2 hours on a hwy going 60 mph which is average for states).

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well something about 200 kms away will take 2 hours to get there on the highway going 100 km/h...

It's not as neat as 1 mile = 1 minute at 60mph, but it's still pretty easy to do the mental math.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Uhm, it might sound arrogant but in metric you don't need that sort of thing? The next order of measurment is just Β±10^x where X is the number of dimensions you want to look at: 10 for i.e. length, 100 for area and 1000 for volume.

Lets look at length: Most commonly used are Millimeter, Centimeter, Meter and Kilometer.

Meter is the base. The name centimeter derives from meter and the Latin word centum meaning 100.So a centimeter is hundredth of a meter (decemeter, 10th, ist not really used much in everyday life). One step further down is millimeter: mille is Latin for thousand, therefore a millimeter is a thousandth of a meter.

Going up Greek prefixes are used: Deka-(10) and hektometer (100) are rarely used and Greek chilloi means thousand and therefore a kilometer is 1000 meters.

Staying in one dimension the same applies to gramme for weight: Milligrams, Gram and Kilograms are the moat common.

Going up in dimensions we use the same prefixes but the multiplyer changes because 10^2 is 100. So to go from 1 mΒ² (one meter to the width times one meter depth) to 1 kmΒ² (thousand meters wide times thousand meeter deep)) the multiplier is not 10Β³ (1000) but 100Β³.

The whole prefixes are effectively optional and just for better readability.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

The next order of measurment is just Β±10^x

There's a strong possibility that I'm just dumb, but this used to trip me up at first. Especially if I was on the spot: 1250mm to m, go! Uh, 125.0? Uh, 12.50?! Uh, 1.250! Yeah!

Or 1.5L to mL, go! Uh, 150mL? Uh, 1500mL! Yeah!

Also, realizing that the most popular prefixes are either kilo 1000x or milli 1/1000 helped. For example, cm don't seem very common, like dimensions are almost always in mm.

I heard someone say once, the metric system is better by a thousand.

[–] lily33@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Sure, it's always a step of 10x, but you do have to remember all the prefixes. Or you can only remember the 1000x prefixes - but you also need to remember centi-. Then, nobody says "megagram" - it's "ton". So there are quirks to remember.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Then, nobody says β€œmegagram” - it’s β€œton”. So there are quirks to remember.

We absolutely should, though... That and megameters, for car mileage. We always round off to the nearest thousand kilometer anyway.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yes/No. There are quirks such as "ton" but in essence you can say 1 million gram and everything is fine. Remembering all those short forms is a nice to have, not a requirement.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not arrogant, I get the hierarchy statements being mundane especially for someone who's inundated within the systems themselves. The honest answer to this is sometimes everyone doesn't learn at the same pace or get upset when they're confronted with something different. For instance, if I were working with someone that didn't complete school or had a learning disability, I could see them eventually grasping milli and centi (I still hesitate with if I'm using them properly with MM/mm/mM) but then hekto-deka is another tall order for someone who just wants to get off work and have a beer without the hassle lol. A school yard saying that uses order listing as an acronym for a Mnemoic like EGBDF in music (Every Good Boy Does Fine) would be cool.

Mostly though, it's more about like the "foot" measurement thing. Something like wrapping my head around the average body weight, cool factoids like comparing volumes of water or like someone commented that 100 is the boiling point, etc.

edit: @donuts@lemmy.world just responded with the mnemonic I was looking for lol.

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