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My first months on Lemmy were spent on Lemmy.world, which was the biggest instance at the time. I had no experience with Hexbear because .world had defederated that instance. I sometimes saw it being described as a "tankie" instance, but it was nothing specific.

After I moved to .zip, I came across [email protected], which seemed to be free from anything overtly political and reminded me of r/Gamingcirclejerk, so I subscribed to it and occasionally made comments related to gaming.

Today I made multiple comments to a post about an article on the STALKER game developers having removed the Soviet symbols and the Russian audio in the remastered edition of the game. I would argue that in the thread, there were no comments from me that could be construed by a reasonable person as defensive of Nazism, fascism, or even hinting at it. For example, in one of the comments, I linked a Ukrainian law that prohibits the use of Nazi symbols, though I highly advise looking through all my ten comments as to avoid any misunderstanding or false impressions.

Conversely, one comment posted by another user dismissed Holodomor as Nazi propaganda, which I reported, but a moderator of that community just ended up calling me out for that and taking no action, followed by them banning me.

The thread containing all of my untouched posts is still available via lemmy.zip. My comments are also available for viewing via my user page. They are not available on hexbear due to the ban.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Some people there post burning flags of other countries and want the total destruction of them... "Death to country XY" being upvoted is as normal there as using toothpaste... Mods seem to support that and ban people who criticize it.

If we had only those people on the planet, there would be nothing but war.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Hexbear is a septic tank of degenerates.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

yeah duh, thats why we block the redfash triad

[–] [email protected] 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I think Hexbear is the only big server sh.itjust.works defederated with, probably for the best. ML is bad but there's enough other people to water it down I suppose

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

This shit is much wider than just hexbear. The lemmy creator himself is leftist and has pro communist essays on his github

https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/dessalines_marxism_study_plan.md

This is atrocious.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It’s more their support of authoritarian states and policies than the communist thought that I take issue with, personally.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Yah, that’s why people call them tankies. Any criticism of the USSR, or even acknowledging why people criticize it, is a banable offense.

The term tankie get’s thrown around a lot, to the point of dilution, but the origin of it comes from western communist who defended the Soviet Union putting down the 1956 Hungarian revolution, notably using T-54/55 tanks. It later came to mean western communist that would ignore or downplay any criticism of the USSR, as “propaganda”. These days it could even be applied more broadly to “People who call them selves left wing or communists but who will defend the actions of any authoritarian regime so long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies” IE people who defended Assad and Putin.

I think hexbear fits even a fairly narrow older definition. Which is why most major instances are defederated from them.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies

Man, I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but Russia isn't even opposed to the US, as long as the Christian white supremacist fascists are ruling things.

The sheer irony of people playing defense for a white supremacist fascist state and then accusing someone else of being a "fascist sympathizer". Like dawg the call is coming from inside the house.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

“People who call them selves left wing or communists but who will defend the actions of any authoritarian regime so long as it is notionally in opposition to the US and it’s allies”

I could never understand that. I mean I understand that for someone completely dissatisfied with the government in a Western country, it's a lot easier to just switch sides and join a community of like-minded people with a large state-funded network of information behind it, but the morality of that is just beneath me. Besides, you won't be completely alone even if you oppose or harshly criticize both the West and the likes of Russia or China.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago

I mean, I think a big part of it is foreign influence efforts landing very strongly with dissenting groups in the US. Then forging influence networks using the extant distrust for the US’s government to dismiss nuance that would paint their patrons in a bad light.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Post this over at [email protected] they love this kind of content.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 23 hours ago

Never heard of that, but I'll crosspost. Thanks! 😄

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

There's a reason most instances are de-fed from them. Play with fire and get burned I don't know what you expected. This post makes you seem either oblivious or knowing but still complaining.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (4 children)

It's not the only gaming community I'm subscribed to. It didn't stand out as being particularly problematic. If you look at its front page today, it's all about games and you won't be able to say it's done from a politicized perspective that would invite comments to the effect of "Russia good", let alone that Holodomor is a Nazi construct. Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover. In the thread, someone dismissed a source just because of their vibes rather than its content. I wouldn't do that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 23 hours ago

Personally, I'm very open-minded and I try not to judge a book by its cover.

It's not just the cover, and now you know that. In fact, it's the cover that misled you.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

And now you know why most instances have defeated from hexbear. It’s extremely toxic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

Agreed, though I'm still not sure I'd defederate even after this incident. It may be best that we inform people of what Hexbear stands for and let them decide.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

If they want to guzzle auth propaganda they can get it from the tap and make a hexbear grad or ml account. The fact that you genuinely though a mod would do something about holodomor denial on hexbear shows you don't fully understand what they're about and why numerous instances already defederated ages ago.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

What do you expect, it’s HexBear. They make ML look like neoliberals.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

I align more closely with hexbear politics than almost all non-hexbear users. IMO, their politics is not the problem -- they're just an astoundingly toxic community.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

You’re better off, they suck.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 23 hours ago

Indeed, nothing has been lost.

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