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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

The grocery/retail worker Union in my city sucks for newbs. Takes a large chunk of your paycheck every two weeks until you gain seniority after 24 months, then you can be a lazy bastard as much as you want.

Unions are great, some suck.

I should've been a teamster, so lazy and surly...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

two years seems like a really long time when you're in the middle of it.

But two years really is a long time to have huge chunk of already low paycheck taken out. 🫀 How do people survive those first two years?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Mooching off of samples, I'd guess.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago

Not to forget the union puts restrictions on how often the boss can call you out, so you may actually have the time to play those video games.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Would you rather have no money and three video games or no video games and three money?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Perfectly put πŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Explain how!"

"Collective bargaining is a means of using a large labor base to argue for better wages and benefits!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

"Woo-hoo!"

wages fly out the window

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

counterpoint, union dues are like real life video game cheat codes!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

DENTAL PLAN

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago

Not American, but my union gets 1% of my payment every month. But every year, almost, we get raises and benefits from this

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Not American but my union deduct 10 dolars from my payment every month to cover union costs. It does it with thousands. Is it too much? Yes. But everyone got 10% payment increase this year plus some benefit increases too. i'm not going to complain

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not American either, and I have no idea how much I pay my union. They've made sure I had several increases in salary in addition for the yearly rise, and I get several insurances for a better price than if I were to buy them for my self.

Last year the collective raise wasn't that high, but they made sure my colleagues with lower salary than me got it instead, and I expect the same thing will happen this year.

I'm totally fine with that because that is what I voted for to happen. My salary is good enough for now, and I want to make sure others are taken care of.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Totally, my union got us bonuses in our last negotiations. The lower your salary the higher your bonus. The only way to have it be fair at all as I see it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

$120 a year is too much to justify a 10% raise?

That's some bad cost benefit analysis.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe the pay is so low to begin with that a ten percent raise is less than the 10 dollars in union dues a paycheck.

$520 a year isn't much though, if your first 20 minutes of work for the pay period pays your dues then you have another 39.66 hours of money that is for you and your creditors.

Edit: did bad math. Look further down comment for adjustments

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

<.<

Firstly, they said $10/month which would mean an hourly rate of ~$0.60 using that logic.

Secondly, even if they said per paycheck and get paid weekly, they would have to be making less than $2.50 an hour for that to make sense.

I highly doubt you’d fine a place that allows for wages that low, which also has a system in place to protect unions and workers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What math are you using?

They said $10 per month. You use pay period. Then you switch to weekly pay.

This highlights another reason for unionization, using people who understand accounting to determine what is a good deal for the workers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm using "I've been up for 20 hours because I'm packing my house up to move somewhere affordable" math. I meant 79.66 hours of your own money. I read their post wrong and thought it must be 10 a paycheck because it seems so small. When I was a Teamster many years ago it was nearly 800 a year so thirty dollars a paycheck.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I've just looked it up and I've paid ~300€ last year. But only because I neglected to tell them, that I've started training for a new job so my dues would actually be much lower. I've just changed it and this year I will pay maybe 30€ or so

Edit: My math was way off ^^' it's actually more like 150€/year right now.

Though they do take a percentage of income before taxes, so I think it's still very fair.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

30€ for the entire year's worth of union dues?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

No, I was stupid. Fixed it

[–] [email protected] 75 points 9 months ago

I was able to buy a new tv and a ps5 for the family this Christmas, because my union benefits saved me so much out of pocket expenses throughout the year that I could afford it. My union also made sure I got vacation pay and sick pay throughout the year so that my paycheck didn't take a hit when I needed time off. My union made sure that I got a guaranteed increase in pay this year so I can afford to live next year.

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