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I was recently thinking of running for office within my locality. I would probably have to run under the purview of the Democratic party purely because of the outreach and funding. However, I despise the Democratic Party and have felt we need to do away with it due to it's radioactive nature (especially within my y'all queda red territory). In my eyes now there are no good politicians as there are no good cops. I feel as though working within the systems rules has become cyclical. We have to work with what we are given because it is all we have, democrats get elected, nothing drastically changes, rinse and repeat. Each local position is restrained in ehat they can do.

I had went to this town hall meeting where ex democrat representatives were speaking (our currently elected republican representatives are not holding town halls so these ex-representatives stepped up to listen to people's concerns) about a month ago and spoke my piece about organizing and making sure your neighbors are ok. I also spoke on organizing a general strike. That seemed to resonate with a lot of people. I had many people come up to me after and tell me I should run for office immediately. Especially because of how young I am. Though I am conflicted.

I feel as though we needed to create a new party, but now we don't have time for that type of organization. Climate change is a real threat that isn't talked about and engaged with as much as it needs to be. Time is running out. I feel as though now is the time to build up grassroots mutual aid movements to make people less reliant on the systems in place (growing food, talking to neighbors and making sure they are ok, etc.) However, there is still some part of me that is screaming these positions are important only because of the potential opponents that can take the reigns instead.

So my question is comrades, do we keep working within the cyclical bounds of the system, do we ditch it and focus on your community, do we do both?

Thank you for your time.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah I would say run as an independent socialist or run with an already existing group in your area. I joined DSA as they're the main socialists/labor force in my area that runs candidates and wins. But yeah while I'm biased towards saying you should join them you should really just find whatever group has momentum in your area and work with them. Or if there is nothing like that in your area (since you said you're in a red area) then running as an independent could be pretty effective if you have the resources to do it since you can push socialist talking points that resonate with people without being labeled a socialist. But yeah at the end of the day you're gonna need to meet people and make connections with people if you want to run so either you can get the resources you need to run or at the very least know people who will help you with door knocking and phone banking.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

Think of it like this. Person A is a "good" person. Wishes no harm on others, actively tries to make life better for others. But doesn't want office because of the stigma surrounding politicians. They accomplish vanishingly little.

Person B, on the other hand, is a "bad" person. Hates others that aren't "like him", a list which grows shorter with every "other" that is eliminated. Wishes only for his own benefit. This person WANTS office, because of the power to further his own ends. He accomplish a terrible amount of awful things.

Which would you rather have in office?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

However, there is still some part of me that is screaming these positions are important only because of the potential opponents that can take the reigns instead.

This is why both are important. Even if you don't accomplish much in office, you can keep the greater evil out of office. We need to offset as much systematic evil as possible if we want direct action to be effective. Politicians won't save us, but some of them will absolutely make things worse.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

It's better to join a Socialist org like PSL and build up that better party than it is to engage with the DNC as a "good" politician. Collective power is better than individuals throwing themselves into the meat grinder.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Running as a democrat to get ballot access is fine imo. Because once yo uare in office, you don't have to stay a Dem, and there is nothing the party can do to "force" you to stay a dem. They can and will primary you, but with incumbancy advantage, that costs them way more then beating you as an independent running against the dem candidate the first time.

e: If you are in a red-area, absolutely run as a republican. Same argument applies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The power of an individual politician is very small, especially if you're known for betraying your party. It's much better to join with a good party and make ground through party building than it is to get into office and then be crippled by having no party to support you. Entryism largely doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Entryism largely doesn’t work.

Eh. While that is true if you want to change an established party, it isn't true if you want improve society somewhat. As an elected-official at any level, you have more power and influence then a citizen, and no matter how little power you have, your presence in the body politic means that you have access to others in that body. There are plenty of things that a government does that require it's elected members to agree to do. As one of those members you have leverage that can be used to help make good things happen, or to soften the bad things that happen, and these are opportunities you don't have if you aren't a part of that system.

Plus you can absolutely "party build" while being an elected official.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The system is deliberately designed to prevent radical change from within. If you do not toe the party line of the DNC or GOP, you are punished. Rather than trying to engage as a rogue agent, it is better to join a committed party and practice Democratic Centralism. A unified force is far stronger than scattered and directionless force, even if said force is done of good will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you aren't in office your "committed party" may as well be a d&d group, you'd have more fun while accomplishing exactly the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Most Socialist parties focus more on labor organizing and protesting than getting into office, because the system itself is designed against radical change. PSL is a revolutionary party, as an example, though it also fronts candidates for office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Nah you have to kiss babies instead of shooting them

[–] [email protected] 5 points 17 hours ago

Anarchist here. I don’t think there’s a one size fits all answer to this— in some adequately rural towns you can have a real impact engaging in local politics.

In most mid-size cities working in local government will feel like pulling teeth and you won’t be able to accomplish anything you want to. You will also be working alongside people who want to be career politicians.

Personally I think your energy is usually better spent organizing to address local issues directly. Even if you start small (filling potholes or cleaning up a park) I feel community work often snowballs in a positive direction because accomplishing small things can help remind people that they can just take responsibility for things they want to see changed. Conventional politics seems to lean towards the idea that you’re outsourcing your responsibility at the ballot box, which would be excellent if representatives actually shouldered your responsibilities, but they usually do not (and probably could not) and we end up with a sort of responsibility vacuum where things are bad and no one feels personal responsibility to fix them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

The answer is always both