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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Tents, shelters for fighter jets and warehouses for military vehicles show increased Russian presence near one of NATO’s newest members.

Oh no so scary, tents and shelters!

Rumours has it that the rare tank you see there is non operational too (or they would be in Ukraine waiting to be demolished).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The image used here and in the NYT article shows a training ground, these are temporary tents for training troops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

"A likely excuse."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I seem to remember, training exercises was what they told the initial troops that went into Ukraine was happening. So, while I really doubt they will do anything. That's really not an indicator either way for Russia.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Finnish people love metal. I bet it helps them in battle. At least +10 attack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Finnish Coma-Doof Warriors.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

Russians storming a village with nice colorful houses. Suddenly the Deathmetal starts playing.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Finalnd is a NATO member. Russia ain't fucking with NATO

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They are "fucking with" NATO, historically, but not attack. Lots of "im not touching you im not touching you" on the borders and north sea. Military submarines where they are not supposed to be. Sudden declarations of artillery practice in international waters causing ship travel to reroute, then not actually doing practice...

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well, we might find out soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah no. Even if the United States sits out on it's dumb fat orange ass, Russia is not likely looking to pick an active fight with all of Europe when it's disinformation warfare can disassemble Europe from the inside out, given enough time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (7 children)

An active fight? Yeah, that's not going to happen. A passive one, though? Might be an option. Carlo Masala recently published his new book If Russia wins: a scenario (No English translation yet). In it, he draws up a scenario where Russia, after defeating Ukraine, annexes a small Estonian town to test NATO's resolve in the face of a limited Russian aggression. He bases this scenario on the German Re-occupation of the Rhineland, during which German troops had they faced any serious resistance by allied forces would have had to retreat. In the book NATO members are divided and dismiss the Estonians request for help under Article 5.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If even a cm of NATO is invaded and not acted on the alliance is worthless. For each nations safety, they must act or be defenceless going forward.

There is zero chance Russia is ever getting away with that, especially after burning all their bridges in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There is zero chance Russia is ever getting away with that

Is there? Given the rather reluctant support of Ukraine, which is about just enough to keep them in the fight, I'm afraid that at least some NATO members would rather give away a symbolic chunk of land than start a military confrontation. And yes, that would be the end of NATO.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Disinformation warfare doesn't keep a wartime economy afloat.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

They aren't being run by rational people, so they probably will attack, and most of the europe will suck it up.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, but it's going to keep some resources and equipment in Finland, instead of being sent to Ukraine.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Here is the article this article is using for its source: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/world/europe/russia-finland-border.html

Edit: Yes, the article isn't great, and clearly has a Russian bias. I was just linking it becuase its the original, and more complete source.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is one of the least informed articles I've ever read. Phrases like "From Moscow’s perspective, the Russians need to bolster their defenses to protect themselves from NATO expansion" is just a cherry on top. Lmao.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

NATO expansion? 😂

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