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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There are no stupid takes, just stupid people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Of course it’s Matt Walsh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Like he even read the response

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Imagine if we did this with climate change. Imagine if we tried to switch to renewable energy en masse 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

like as if we wanted to live

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Problem with that is that in comparison the alternative to CFC was not that more expensive and then a cheaper one was invented shortly after.

For climate change you basically can double our energy costs and therefore double the cost of almost everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The cost of everything would double?

... Oh no...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Not to seem callous, but the first world could learn to live off of a little less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Whoa there buddy. That would put my butler's butler out of a job. Also where does a person park their yacht if not inside another, larger yacht?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Honestly this is what I keep saying and everyone gets pissed when I do.

There's enough resources on this planet that every living human could live a decently luxurious life. But because we allow a small handful of us to hoard all those resources we have poverty on a global scale.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Misleading post, it seems to imply that it helped significantly.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Turns out, that the hole in the ozone layer didn't get repaired. In fact, it's larger than it's ever been and above the Antarctic. Antarctica is currently experiencing a mass die-off of animals. We didn't do shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Citation: Rectally Sourced Science.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Models suggest that the concentration of chlorine and other ozone-depleting substances in the stratosphere will not return to pre-1980 levels until the middle decades of the 21st century. Scientists have already seen the first definitive proof of ozone recovery, observing a 20 percent decrease in ozone depletion during the winter months from 2005 to 2016. In 2019, abnormal weather patterns in the upper atmosphere over Antarctica dramatically limited ozone depletion, leading to the smallest hole since 1982. Models predict that the Antarctic ozone layer will mostly recover by 2040.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

We definitely did something. It just would have been a lot worse if we didn't. In fact so bad that BBC says the planet would have been "uninhabitable."

According to some models, the Montreal Protocol and its amendments have helped prevent up to two million cases of skin cancer yearly and avoided millions of cataract cases worldwide.

Had the world not banned CFCs, we would now find ourselves nearing massive ozone depletion. "By 2050, it's pretty well-established we would have had ozone hole-like conditions over the whole planet, and the planet would have become uninhabitable," says Solomon.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220321-what-happened-to-the-worlds-ozone-hole

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this true? An article from 2022 indicates things are getting better, just slowly

Today, the ozone hole still exists, forming every year over Antarctica in the spring. It closes up again over the summer as stratospheric air from lower latitudes is mixed in, patching it up until the following spring when the cycle begins again. But there’s evidence it’s starting to disappear – and recover more or less as expected, says Solomon. Based on scientific assessments, the ozone layer is expected to return to pre-1980 levels around the middle of the century. Healing is slow because of the long lifespan of ozone-depleting molecules. Some persist in the atmosphere for 50 to 150 years before decaying.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20220321-what-happened-to-the-worlds-ozone-hole

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

It's not. I'm guessing they did a Google search, looked at a few misleading article titles, and then decided they were a scientist.

On average, the hole has been shrinking, but 2023's hole was the 12th biggest on record. The eruption of Hunga-Tonga was thought to be the main factor.

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