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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If 20 strangers get 1/20 of a 10 million dollar mansion what do they do? The most anyone could pay for it is $500,000.

Everyone is on here talking about how this would cause inflation, but I don’t think it would. A vast majority of this value is not in cash but in stocks bonds and property. I am more sure how you would divide up who gets apples shares and who gets 5% of their neighbors $600,000 home. But even if you were able, what is sure is that most people would want to convert their stock/bonds/property to cash so they can eat. Only problem is that no one in America would have any cash to buy up the assets. So in a market full of sellers and no buyers the value of everything will plummet.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

To be honest we could use a little deflation right about now.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The only way this fantasy would work is if it were placed in an annuity for people. As others have mentioned, the greed in the market would just send prices up rapidly to soak up the extra money, and people are generally idiots with money and they’d piss it away immediately.

So you’d maybe have to have carve-outs for medical debt or something so people could pay that off, the rest would have to remain restricted and offer limited payouts until maybe retirement, but frankly the public at large would completely fuck up any windfall, and the market would make suckers out of all of them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Hmmm . . . as a lump sum the market would then react and everything would cost 1 million dollars. Money isn't real. Food, Land, and property are.

I think money's value is directly tied to its velocity of trade vs the scarcity of the item it's being traded for.

However

IMO: What you are owed is 500,000$ worth of government services per person. The costs of things like public education, infrastructure, healthcare , social security and other social services should be covered by this.

This is what they want to take from you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

No one said it would be 500k in money/cash. It could very well be real estate, gold, shares, bonds, or a mix thereof.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I assumed it was cash by "each couple would have a million dollars".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

... Of networth. Given that we're taking about the wealth of the US, most of which is NOT cash, assuming the post-redistribution would be all in cash is ridiculous.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your definition is pretty close to theory.

V_{T} M = P T

V_{T} is the velocity of money for all transactions in a given time frame;

P is the price level;

T is the amount of transactions occurring in a given time frame;

M is the total nominal amount of money in circulation on average in the economy

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Upvote to the moon. Lots of leftists seem to intellectually understand that money is a fiction that's sometimes useful, but are bad at putting that into practice.

I'll stick my neck out on something here: this includes donating to individual people in Gaza, even if they're coming to you from a verified source on Blue Sky. Yes, a kilo of flour might cost $600. Giving someone $600 to buy flour might feed that family, but there's some other family who isn't getting that flour. You're just choosing who starves today. The fundamental issue is that there isn't enough flour or any other food. There is no way to solve that by donating to individuals. It can only be solved by telling the government of Israel to go fuck itself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It can only be solved by telling the government of Israel to go fuck itself.

I wrote them a strongly worded email. Is it solved now?

I get the general point you're making. But you're not even recommending the money be spent on something else that will help. We can do both things. If you are going to donate money because you have spare and want to help, and then don't on the basis you're choosing who starves, you're still just making an additional family starve.

I dunno. I haven't thought too much about this. Convince me why it's not better to try to enact change and donate money at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

"Tell Israel to go fuck itself" in a broad sense. Yes, donating money to a cause that directly tells Israel to go fuck itself, in something more than a strongly worded letter, is worthwhile.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

each person would have that exactly once... over time the concentration would happen again

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just want billionaires and churches to pay their fair share and end citizens united. That's a great start

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

People who are complaining real life lacks money sinks need to be taxed more, not less as they still have endless amount of money no matter if they pay 1% tax or 30% tax. Religion is a glorified hobby, it should not be except from tax.

I have no interest in stealing what someone has earned one way or another rather them not paying for their upkeep in a proportional way. Someone who makes 1000 a month losing 30% of that income hurts a lot when rent is 500. Someone who makes 10,000,000 a month, losing 3 mil doesnt hurt when most of that money should be free capital anyway that can easily be used to generate more income.

Governments should find a way to make a cost of living adjustment.

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