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According to new reporting from the New York Times, a Houthi surface-to-air (SAM) missile barely missed an American F-35 fifth-generation fighter, the crown jewel of the U.S. fighter inventory. The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.

The incident raises questions about the survivability of one of America’s most advanced fighters, and raises concerns over how effective the relatively unsophisticated Houthi air defense system has been at hampering U.S. action.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe we should stop FUCKING AROUND if we dont want to find out?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

100% numerous people in the US military know that they're sitting on extremely expensive ships/aircraft/vehicles that are with modern enough weaponry, easy to destroy. A question of whether they have the power, for enough time required, to fix the bloat

Difficult and expensive to develop, manufacturer, maintain. Trapped in service contracts with completely single source suppliers, no alternatives. If it wasn't so expensive to maintain, even just the ammunition, maybe it wouldn't be such a panic situation but well after pretty much constantly being at war since the countries inception, the US is sitting on an albatross of a military. Not just all the equipment but how much employment is tied to supporting the albatross. Albatross multiplied hard with Iraq and Afghanistan paired with all the tax cuts since Reagan. Without Afghanistan and Iraq, probably wouldn't be so wallet concerned for for a good amount longer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol I'm sure a blitzed Pete Hegseth will fix these problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Apparently, it was DEI keeping the planes in the air, so our new crackerforce is dumping the planes overboard. Won't have to worry about them if we give them to the orcas.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Good for them

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

it evades cheap missiles but at what cost!?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The F-35, participating in Operation Rough Rider against the Houthis, was forced to take evasive action to avoid the missile.

So, they had to, like, dodge a missile? And that is panic worthy?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago

It had to rely on a last resort as opposed to its primary defensive system which constricts its design in a big way, its stealth component.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago

It's a stealth plane apparently, so I guess it wasn't supposed to be seen, but they saw it.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Supposedly the F35 should never have been seen or detected in the first place.

The fact that a missile was tracking it and they had to dodge it means that these stealth capabilities are lacking.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

What? They can see and hear our blaringly loud war bird spewing kilotonnes of hellfire over their heads? But we paid a gogol of dinaros so it would be invisible!

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard it's supposed to be super stealthy and really smart, so I guess they didn't expect to even have to do that lol. Otherwise, we could spend less money and use the older less stealthy and technologically advanced jets.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Enter Maverick, ready to fly the old jets.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Millennium Challenge 2002.

That's when we learned that low tech can beat high tech in this manner.

Did they learn the lesson at DOD? Of course not. They demoted the guy who won and made him play out a cosplay battle where America Wins!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

They demoted the guy who won and made him play out a cosplay battle where America Wins!

To be completely accurate: Paul Van Riper was already retired when he agreed to lead red force in MC02. After it was clear that red force was winning, they stopped the exercise and restarted it with a bunch of new restrictions on what red force was allowed to do. Essentially, scripting the win for blue force.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Oh I remember hearing about this but forgot the name. Primo “military intelligence is an oxymoron” stuff.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I wouldn't say they learned nothing from that war game. They've never done to Iran what they did to the other six of the infamous seven that the Bushies planned to dismantle. I suspect that that war game is a factor in that decision. This thing with the Houthis serves to refresh their memories I guess. At least I hope. Who knows, with this admin, anything can happen

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wait, an f35? THAT F35? The super expensive, country sinking cost, MULTIPLE TRILLION dollar (with a capital T, that's X,000,000,000,000 USD), super late, overbudget, multiple decade long development (80s-2010s?), the "that's too expensive, cut everything that made it unique out" F-35?

The F-35 program that KEEPS getting MORE expensive?

The F-35 that, if you look at a pie chart of ALL of United States budget, would be a singular visible chunk?

The F-35 project that's commonly cited when learning about logical fallacies as an example of sunk cost fallacy?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

yea they're shooting at em now

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