Cool. I don't give a shit about Capitalist labels in the first place. Buy the meat for taste and quality. Grass Fed or even better, locally sourced, is all you need.
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Actually you don't need to murder animals for food at all! It's amazing we can have this knowledge in our time on earth
Sure, if you want to develop a choline deficiency, otherwise enjoy your 2.5 cups of chickpeas for your RDI.
choline deficiency
heard of cauliflower and brocolli my bro?
Just double checked to get my numbers right.
Beef liver and eggs top the scale at approx 120g(4.2oz) or 240g(8.5oz) eggs for your RDI.
Beef and soy beans (not chickpeas my mistake) come in next at 420g (15oz) for your RDI and up to 670g(24oz) for chicken and fish.
If you think eating 15oz of roasted soybeans, or tofu each day or drinking 12 cups of soymilk (half the choline density) daily is nutritionally balanced then more power to you.
But if you want to try broccoli and cauliflower that'll be 750g(28oz) daily for your RDI. Good luck balancing your macro's.
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Choline-HealthProfessional/
Heard of facts, bro?
So 15oz of soy a day is too much but 15oz of beef a day is fine? Am I understanding you correctly? 24oz of chicken or fish is also fine?
Idk this just makes me think that I should be eating more tofu than I have been.
Tofu isn't remotely as nutritionally complete as beef, chicken or fish, you'll need to consume significantly more variety of foods to get the same nutritional coverage, but as long as the rest of your diet is nutritionally complete you could substitute your key protein for tofu and still get your choline.
The main problem with substituting that much tofu is that in terms of substitution by volume, tofu works out about double that of meat due to density and water content (assuming silken tofu) and can make it hard to reach nutritional goals due to being satiated by a low caloric food just to meet choline RDI.
My recommendation would be to combine tofu with eggs if you're OK with eating eggs, one egg a day brings your tofu needs down to 12oz for choline and will also give you additional micronutrient coverage that you'd miss out on by avoiding meat while making the amount of tofu more manageable for daily consumption.
So you eat a cow's liver every day, or you drop dead? Why do carnists never address the fact that veganism is evidently healthy just by the fact that vegans are alive and healthy?
Why do vegans have under developed mental capacities as evidenced by their inability to read and parse numbers and data or without using facetious hyperbole to make arguments about imagined antagonists? Lack of choline during critical brain development and ongoing deficiency maybe?
150g(5oz) beef 3 times a day for RDI, since you can't read good.
Just because some 300lb fatass can live on a potato chip vegan diet doesn't mean they're healthy.
Just like how Marlboro lights don't cause as much cancer...
Pall Malls were marketed to pregnant women for stress control by people who played doctors on television as late as the early 1980s. You could even smoke in your hospital room.
We’ve come a long way, baby.
I never stopped wearing masks since the beginning, and get boosted every time it’s available.
I’ve always taken Covid seriously, same as the flu for which we get yearly boosters.
I’ll always be angry at antivaxxers that this thing that could have been contained like SARS was turned globally endemic because morons refuse to live in reality, so I’ll probably have to mask for the rest of my life (I have autoimmune issues that don’t play nice with Covid and I’d likely die very, very horribly, slowly and painfully drowning alone in an isolation room).
So yeah, I won’t forget who’s fault this is.
Still, the most climate friendly meat are vegan alternatives.
I’ve got this weird disease where my body can’t process fruits or veg, only meat, rice, pasta, and dairy.
I’m so excited for sustainable, lab-grown meat, I can’t even tell you. Living on rice and pasta alone sucks (even with dietary supplements), so I can’t ditch animal products.
They keep promising it, but every related headline is this bullshit. Hey corporate meat scientists: stop trying to make animal farming a thing in the future and start growing cloned steaks, please.
I'm vegan, and I hope lab grown gets so cheap for people like you that just want to taste some meat without the suffering. I may want to tray it form time to time, I'm not even half done exploring the recipes of the world.
Yep, and for a source to back that up:
If I source my beef or lamb from low-impact producers, could they have a lower footprint than plant-based alternatives? The evidence suggests, no: plant-based foods emit fewer greenhouse gases than meat and dairy, regardless of how they are produced.
[…]
Plant-based protein sources – tofu, beans, peas and nuts – have the lowest carbon footprint. This is certainly true when you compare average emissions. But it’s still true when you compare the extremes: there’s not much overlap in emissions between the worst producers of plant proteins, and the best producers of meat and dairy.
to be supported with taxpayer dollars
Taxpayer funded factory farms? Why would anyone want their tax dollars going to a universally cruel industry, or to a company caught doing horrific things time and time again?
How about we subsidize more plant-based products? Make it more affordable and accessible, and this pesky beef problem will simply go away.
Unfortunately these factory farms already receive large subsidies in the US
Ah yes, socialism for corporations and for us peons, go fuck yourself-ism.