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This week YouTube hosted Brandcast 2025 in which it revealed how marketers could make better use of the platform to connect with customers.

A few new so-called innovations were announced at the event but one has caught the attention of the internet – Peak Points. This new product makes use of Gemini to detect “the most meaningful, or ‘peak’, moments within YouTube’s popular content to place your brand where audiences are the most engaged”.

Essentially, YouTube will use Gemini and probably the heatmap generated on YouTube videos by people skipping to popular points, to determine where to place advertising. Anybody who has grown up watching terrestrial television where adverts arrive as a way to build suspense will understand how annoying Peak Points could become.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Youtube... Youtube... Oh, yes, I remember Youtube. That was fun to use half a decade ago or so.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know how people watch YouTube with ads. Premium or ad blocker, otherwise it's a nightmare.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 week ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

When I have to visit it sans adblocker it is like a dumpster fire.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's definitely a different ML classifier than what Gemini is currently doing. Is Google just using the brand Gemini to mean "any ML system provided by Google"?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Gemini also being forced on me more and more in Android. Seriously considering a linux phone next.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been hoping for one for some time, but it wouldn't be a smooth sailing even if everything was perfect. Get a pixel, install grapheneos and see if you can cope with it. I've been running it for a year now - lack of decent map app is my biggest issue that's left. Waze is great for driving, but useless for everything else; it's also owned by google. Most other apps are just reskinned google maps and don't even load without gapps.

And I'm a sysadmin. My degoogling journey began in 2018-2019 with running my own nextcloud for files, photo backup, contact and calendar sync, as well as my own email server. All that to say that I've had it fairly easy to ditch play store on a phone, but that's not what most will experience.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Firefox + uBlock origin

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Willing to bet uBlock Origin will make it so I never see a single one of these ads.

Firefox forever.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

And Revanced for android is just 😘🤌 chef's kiss.

https://revanced.app/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Cool, I'll have a look!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm a Newpipe man myself but Revanced is also fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Hey, Newpipe's a banger too, just not what I found first. I fully support anything that takes away from Google's profits

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OK let's all skip to the middle of sponsor segments so the ads cover the sponsor segment. Win win

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The ads don't cover anything though, the video continues where it stopped before the ads.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No one will even blink at ads on most engaging moments in Youtube videos, in Pornhub ones tho....

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because nothing endears your platform to users like throwing ads in their face during the high points of whatever they are watching.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Migrated away from Google because they're just genuinely useless.

Search results are infested with AI bullshit and SEO slop, can't actually search for anything useful unless you know the website you're looking for, in which case I just go to the website directly.

Youtube curates a selection of completely irrelevant videos to try to shove ads down your throat, I still have to change my user agent string every time because YouTube throws a hissy fit at firefox with ublock.

Gmail is pretty much the same as any other email provider but comes at the expense of your data being sold for advertising purposes.

Don't even get me started on the shit show that is Android.

I run GrapheneOS, Fedora and debian, self host what I can and use decent providers for what I can't. I'm the furthest away from the big tech corps than I've ever been and it feels great to have computers that actually compute and not serve me useless fucking ad drivel.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I have a Google account specifically for logging into YouTube. I've aggressively used the like/hide channel/not interested in this video options to force it to actually show me what I want. It took quite a while to train it, but my YouTube homepage is actually nice right now.

But every so often I'll go on YouTube logged out and it's like staring into the sun. The top videos that it pushes seem like brain melting garbage.

Strangely I haven't had any issues with Firefox+Ublock+Sponsorblock. The way YouTube interacts with seemingly the same sets of software for different people is baffling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i dont log into to youtube most of the time, just draws unnessary attention, from other users.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I stopped using YouTube years ago. Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use YT and have not seen an ad in years. I do not understand people who have not disabled ads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can use it through chrome without ads sure but it works like hot garbage.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I use it daily on Firefox on Linux and on Windows and on android using Revanced

It works exactly like YouTube but without ads and with sponsorblock

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I checked out Revanced and it looks helpful thanks for that info.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Most of my favorite channels are on nebula now anyway. Just need Technology Connections and Mark Rober (my kids LOVE Mark Rober) to make the jump.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

I’ve been meaning to try nebula, that lifetime membership sounds hella great!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Knew from inception Gemini was shit

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gemini is actually legit the best LLM I've used locally for anything, consistently faster and more accurate than even models taking up about double the resources

Shame it's stupid locked down even in my ollama installation and it's near impossible to get it to do something daddy google doesn't like. Ah well, works really well for checking my garbage config files lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Long as you like it, let it run. Its only gotten in my way by forcing tabs into my browser and asking if I want to converse with it in my messages app

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

They don't even need Gemini for this... They are just shoving into everyones face. I am sure data they have on people was watching the video is all they need and doesn't take "ai" to figure it out.

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