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[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The biggest reason that was never mentioned is ..

They need a vehicle that can accommodate and carry a 300lb human.

I have a friend who is over weight, his wife is over weight and their four teenage children are all overweight.

One of their previous vehicles was a small car and it looked like a clown show to see four of them stuff themselves into an average sized car and watch the suspension dip.

I couldn't believe they got a newer F150 that they paid about $50,000 for ..... a used vehicle! It's a great truck and they got it just to fit four of them comfortably. They parked next to my 2010 F150 and theirs looks like a transport.

And when they step into the truck, they look normal and you no longer notice how big they are because their truck is huge.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My Subaru Forester is not a tiny SUV. I was parked between two pickup trucks the other day, and my roof was only slightly higher than their hoods. The Simpsons' Canyonero is no longer a parody.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I drive an Outback. Have you seen the ~~new 1999 Ford Explorer~~ 2026 Outback? The things even Subaru is doing are, just, BLEH.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I live in Germany where people usually drive reasonably-sized cars. Something like a Škoda Karoq SUV is already considered unreasonably large.

A while ago I saw someone drive a Ford F-150 past our house. That thing is almost 1m (~3 feet) longer and 30 cm (~1 foot) taller than those SUVs. In its smallest version. How the hell do Americans live like that?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Mate, every time I go into even small suburban areas I see people driving RAM pickups, G-Wagons and other enormous SUVs.

This is a global problem, maybe it's not as bad as it is in the US but it's still there.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I'm starting to see Dodge Rams and similar vehicles here in Germany, too. People are such assholes.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

CAFE standards base fleet fuel economy targets on wheelbase. It’s cheaper for manufacturers to produce large trucks and SUVs, which don’t have to meet as stringent a standard due to their large wheelbase.

Those are also classified as light trucks, which means they don’t have to comply with the higher safety standards that “passenger cars” do, another reason they’re cheaper to produce.

How do we sell those? Marketing to make people think they need them.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

The government naively assumed the auto makers wouldn't notice the gaping loophole in the CAFE standards and then did nothing while trucks grew to outlandish sizes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

First guy on the second line looks and sounds like a blonde Ron Swanson

(Ron is not that bad of course, but he can sound like he is)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

There's one big one missing, no viable public transit options. America has half a rail system and a tenth of the bussing it actually needs. We're blessed and cursed with an abundance of space, and we sprawled out across the land on the assumption that everyone would have a car.

There isn't an easy fix. It's not just a matter of adding more busses, it's where and how people live and work. It's how highways and neighborhoods are laid out. I'm fortunate to live close to a rail hub, but I still have to drive there from my house, and I would need a car at any destination. We don't even have sidewalks or bike lanes between here and there.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

fair enough, but why the ginormous cars? Is this a vestige of the wagon you could live out of when headed west?

PS: I found this website, this is hilarious https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/skoda-citigo-2011-5-door-hatchback-vs-chevrolet-suburban-2020-suv/

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The last one is understandable from the standpoint that she needs an mpv to transport all those kids

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't know what an MPV is, but the most comfortable way to transport a lot of kids is a minivan.

I have a friend whose daughter got into an accident that scared her, so he got her a Ford Explorer.

The biggest problem isn't having big cars around, is the prevalence, the absolute car dependency that makes everyone have to drive, and that a lot people simply should not drive (either for skill it attitude issues).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

By mpv i meant this:

Probably what you call a minivan

(English isn't my mother tongue, so i'm probably in the wrong here)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That is indeed an MPV, what we call a "people carrier" in Britain, and I think you're right that Americans would call it a mini van

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

Yes, it's called a minivan in North America.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Then this turns this conversation into a "wtf is a kilometer" xD

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Thanks, I hate it

[–] [email protected] 74 points 6 days ago (6 children)

One of the sadder reasons: I need a pickup but they stopped making small pickups in the 90's.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (7 children)

You're in luck (maybe?): Telo truck, Slate truck, or even the newer Ford Maverick. The first two aren't in production yet, but Mavericks look like a great size.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, I just still own a small pickup built in the '90s in 2025. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The cheapest cars start at like $25k anyway and depreciate much faster than a truck/full-size. Plus fuel cost is massively subsidized. I've seen even eco-conscious friends of mine get FlexFuel F150s because it just doesn't make sense to buy a small car. It's like movie theatre popcorn pricing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah; I think economics is the real reason. Large trucks are massively subsidized (fuel, the truck itself, the insurance on it, and the cost to store it). Without these subsidies; they largely wouldn’t exist

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Indeed. Also, "compact," what is this, 2010?? Don't exist anymore. You can either choose between fuckhuge trugg or fuckhuge sedan. Even our compacts are bigger than 90s four-doors (and sold as either top-spec luxury sports models or tin cans on wheels that nobody should be driving)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago

Also: Because my truck can't be smaller than my neighbor's.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Americans can't count because that is eleven reasons.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don't think they were counting the middle one.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Then they shouldn't have put a reason in there 🙄

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