askchapo

Yes 100% specifically Obama for extra blame

Only in the sense that the point of liberalism is to enable fascist leaders to take power mostly unchallenged once the liberals fail at being secret fascists.

It was their briber approved Explicit strategy.

My policies are so mainstream that if you put my policies back in the 1980s I'd be a moderate Republican

They used him to dump their own dirty laundry on and as a shield and excuse for completely abandoning "Teh Left", and it was a project in the making since before

I would say yes. Their continual sabotage of popular policies and candidates while propping up the right has done immeasurable damage to the credibility of the Democratic party.

Having given ground to the Republican party and still treating them as civilized but misguided allies (Trotting out the Cheneys and politicians like Pelosi saying the US needs a strong Republican party), has left a lot of would-be voters unmotivated and rightfully mistrusting.

When you don't even pretend to give something to your constituents, it makes sense that someone like Trump would succeed. And the Democratic party continues to play ball with him, further legitimizing the notion that this is any way acceptable.

They shoulder a lot of the blame, as long as you don't go so far that you forget the decades of right wing media extremism backed by oil billionaires that also shoulders a lot of the blame.

The average American's political consciousness only sees two sides: libs with their rainbow imperialism, and chuds with their overt imperialism, and they by and large just side with the one that makes them feel better about themselves.

I think of Trump more as a product of the system that was inevitable. He took the already existing energy of the people who were disillusioned and crushed by the capitalist system but misguided on the causes and solution. I wouldn't necessarily say it was only that democrats that propagated this system, though they contributed heavily to it.

Kind of tangential, but it’s supremely ironic that the reason burgerland Amerikkka sees Trump as ultra competent businessman who’s always on the winning end of the deal is because NBC rehabilitated his image with The Apprentice.

Indirectly? Yes. They're responsible for creating and upholding a declining status quo while suppressing all left-wing alternatives and not only allowing the right to run wild but also legitimizing them through concessions and appeasement.

Directly? Also yes, because they literally promoted Trump thinking he'd be easier to beat and that they could more easily sell themselves as the "lesser evil" and coerce voters into coming out if they were up against him (which they've also done with other far-right candidates).

Literally any scale, any perspective you want to use, they deserve plenty of blame.

Both parties knowingly and actively encourage this system, and this system legitimises leaders like Trump. I can't really overstress how much Trump is not a divergence from the norm of the trend of at least a half-century.

Is it fair to blame basically all the bourgeoisie, including Dems, for the rise of Trump? Yeah, almost obviously so. To keep supporting this trend borderline requires you to be deliberately supporting these kinds of leaders.

Beyond the direct contributions such as the pied piper stuff it's important to understand the actual political landscape.

The reality is that Democrats do not provide an alternative. Democrats have consistently been behind the biggest pushes to "depoliticize" (in reality de-democratize) issues and shroud them in technocracy. Obama is directly responsible for so much of this such as:

• mechanizing imperialism via drone warfare
• mechanizing deportations
• creating the new era surveillance capitalism where the dynamic between entities such as Google and the government isn't based in annoying money losing legalistic demands, but a customer / vendor relationship

On these alone the power of the President has been expanded greatly to cater to right wing political governance. These are really "core" tactics and functions that present the fact that there is no alternative.

We had 4 years of Biden as the 'alternative' and what happened?:

• They adopted Trumps immigration policy
• They bragged about how well they deported people
• They backed a genocide
• CHIPS / sanctions based economic warfare (compared to tariff based)
• Promised cash that they then didn't give out

Democrats aren't even "anti-corruption", they couldn't get STOCK Act with teeth, and their biggest stars are all guilty of insider trading. The country is too stupid to understand it, but they're not even trying anymore such as when Hochul said "I talked to some guy at a diner and that's why we must stop congestion pricing". She literally did the "Everyone at the Barbershop is talking about Warren" as an excuse for rich people whispering in her ear.

Democrats put a friendly capable face on the same kinds of policies that Trump champions. We've also seen that most of the centrist technocrats are more than willing to throw the vulnerable constituencies under the bus and claim that they have the right to adjudicate their lives and views:

• Biden's comments about how you must vote for him otherwise you're not black
• Newsom's explicit backpedaling on LGBT+ rights
• The Party's reported backpedaling on LGBT+ rights
• Schumer's comments about his job being to keep "the left" pro-Israel.

One of the most interesting things is DEI itself. Instead of actually pushing for a welfare state, or any kind of material benefits. They created this corpo cultural affect that resulted in makework jobs for the richest BIPOC and GSM people, while ignoring the rest of them because it's "too hard". They created this gigantic target that the right wing can point to and say "look at what they're getting". Ultimately this type ratchet effect is always based on Democrats pretending that politics isn't a resource allocation system and that under capitalism it devolves into a winner talk all strategy that snowballs. Why? Well only because it's an aesthetic foil to the Republicans correct interpretation of the political economy and their political strategy.

It's a new stanza but a the same rhyme scheme for a lot of the big problem issues, homelessness, free trade, jobs, drug decriminalization, prison/judicial system reform, election reform, etc.

Even if we ignore how badly they fucked up in 2016, the onus is on them in TWICE (?) now having the chance to act as opposition to him and what have they done? Fuck all. The democrats unwillingness to meaningfully combat Trump has just enabled him to get bolder and bolder in his shit.

The USA has a one-party system with the typical extravagance of having two of them. It's not about which half of the political front of the bourgeoisie is to blame for x and y, it's capital doing its things and crumbling under its own contradictions

Absolutely, sure you can apportion blame elsewhere but the Pied Pier strategy in the first term alone means they should get a large amount

If they had done something as simple as RERUN OBAMA'S ELECTION LIES, Hillary murders Trump before he gets winner stank on himself.

is it fair to blame the Weyland-Yutani Corporation for the xenomorph problem

Yes, obviously. They literally funded his 2016 Republican primary campaign. Joe Biden more or less railroaded through the 2024 election cycle by rejecting any chance of carrying out an open primary.

Obama roasting Trump at the House Correspondents video is supposedly what convinced him to run in the first place and he never would have gotten traction in the election if Hillary hadn't leaned into the Pied Piper strategy.