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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Nope, screw opt-out. OPT-IN ONLY, i want it to be disabled by default.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It is not hard. One just has to be committed enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

I very much understand wanting to have a say against our data being freely harvested for AI training. But this article's call for a general opt-out of interacting with AI seems a bit regressive. Many aspects of this and other discussions about the "AI revolution" remind me about the Mitchell and Web skit on the start of the bronze age: https://youtu.be/nyu4u3VZYaQ

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You can opt-out by deleting your accounts on corporate social networks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Haha, no you can't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Can you? When all businesses start using AI for customer interaction...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Ah yes. The "freedom" the usa has spread all over its country and other nations.. Yes of course we must protect that freedom that is ofc a freedom for people to avoid getting owned by giant corporations. We must protect the freedom of giant corporations to not give us ai if they want to. I don't disagree but think people are more important

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If AI is going to be crammed down our throats can we at least be able to hold it (aka the companies pushing it) liable for providing blatantly false information? At least then they'd have incentive to provide accurate information instead of just authoritative information.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

As much as you can hold a computer manufacturer responsible for buggy software.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

It should be opt in

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

AI is everywhere now, but having the choice to opt out matters. Sometimes, using tools lik Instant Ink isn't about AI it’s just about saving time and making printing easier.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I doubt we'll ever be offered a real opt-out option.

Instead I'm encouraged by the development of poison pills for the AI that are non-consensually harvesting human art (Glaze and Nightshade) and music (HarmonyCloak).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I’ve deleted pretty much all social media, I’m down to only Lemmy. I only use my home PC for gaming, like CiV or cities skylines or search engines for things like travel plans. I’m trying to be as offline as possible because I don’t believe there’s any other way to opt out and I don’t believe there ever will be. Like opting out of the internet is practically impossible, AI will get to this point as well

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Remind me in 3 days.

Although poison pills are only so effective since it's a cat and mouse game, and they only really work for a specific version of a model, with other models working around it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But do Glaze, Nightshade, and HarmonyCloak really work to prevent that information from being used? Because at first, it may be effective. But then they'll find ways around those barriers, and that software will have to be updated, but only the one with the most money will win.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

AI is a venture capital money pit, and they are struggling to monetize before the hype dies out.

If the poison pills work as intended, investors will stop investing "creative" AI when the new models stop getting better (and sometimes get worse) because they're running out of clean content to steal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

AI has been around for many years, dating back to the 1960s. It's had its AI winters and AI summers, but now it seems we're in an AI spring.

But the amount of poisoned data is minuscule compared to the data that isn't poisoned. As for data, what data are we referring to: everything in general or just data that a human can understand?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If there was an ai to detect ai would you use it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Yes. That is actually an ideal function of ethical AI. I’m not against AI in regards to things that is is actually beneficial towards and where it can be used as a tool for understanding, I just don’t like it being used as a thief’s tool pretending to be a paintbrush or a typewriter. There are good and ethical uses for AI, art is not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The problem is not the tool. It's the inability to use the tool without a third party provider.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Local is a thing. And models are getting smaller with every iteration.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You don't need AI. There are enough porn sites with real humans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

And lots of hentai for stuff that is humanly impossible

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