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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh I'm sure some rich bastards will find a way to ruin it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

They're going to...pull a vacuum in a concrete sphere deep underwater. And then use the force of water being sucked back in to turn a turbine.

...sure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think I understand how the battery where they drop a big weight down a mountain works; how do these work? Or how does it compare in effectiveness as I assume it's probably the same principle?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It has a turbine inside it. It is not a cement ball, it is very misleading title. It's a cement shaped hollow orb with a hydro power generator inside it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Well that sounds like cheating.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds interesting, but considering how thick hydroelectric dams need to be to hold back a mere lake, how thick are these spheres going to be to hold back an entire ocean?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, someone invented upside down pumped storage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

High social acceptability: Installed far from inhabited areas, these facilities arouse less opposition.

Actually, being very close to inhabited areas, but 0 impact, including nonsensical nuissance arguments, means short power transmission. It's also very easy to pair with offshore wind.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I would like to know what is the % of loss when storing power as any energy conversion is not lossless.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Regular pumped hydro has an overall efficiency of about 80%. I would guess these sphere things would be similar, assuming you can put them near a high-voltage line, since the underlying technology (pump and turbine) is the same.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

Cheap storage is more important than conversion ratio. Enough renewables leads to periods of negative prices without matching storage capacity. Storage can mean 1-2c/kwh charging costs, and even 50% efficiency makes discharged power 2-4c/kwh.

if 0.5m thick sphere, 30m diameter is 1413 m^3 of concrete. $300k to $400k in materials. Stores 150mwh power. About $2-$3/kwh

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