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cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/206911

First, Trump issued an executive order to militarize domestic law enforcement. Now a new order has come out. Buried in Project Homecoming, the executive order just released by the White House, is the single most dangerous shift in American civil liberties in a generation.

The same man who empowered ICE with military-grade surveillance, armored vehicles, and counterterror tools is now pushing the legal justification to detain people indefinitely.

The administration is laying the legal groundwork to suspend habeas corpus, the constitutional right that protects people from being detained without trial. It’s the right to not be disappeared. It’s the foundation of due process. And they’re getting ready to tear it away.

How? They’re invoking the Suspension Clause of the Constitution, which only allows habeas to be revoked “in cases of rebellion or invasion.” Stephen Miller and the Trump legal machine are now planning to label undocumented immigration as an “invasion,” which would let them bypass courts and jail people without charges, trials, or legal representation. The administration is trying to reclassify undocumented immigration as an invasion to unlock those powers. That’s the strategy.

Let that sink in. They’re preparing to create a class of people who can be detained indefinitely without ever seeing a judge.

Ask yourselves, If anyone can just be disappeared off the streets without charges, without court appearances, without access to a lawyer then do we still have a democracy?

This is just the beginning, it won’t stop at immigrants. So let’s be clear about what this will look like.

Indefinite detention. No due process. No hearings. No legal protections. We’ve seen this playbook before in history—and it always starts with creating a legal exception for a specific group. In this case, it’s undocumented immigrants. But legal exceptions do not stay contained. Once the precedent is set, it expands. Always.

Ask yourself: who defines what an “invasion” is? Who decides who qualifies as a threat? Protesters? Activists? Whistleblowers? Once the right to challenge detention is suspended for one group, the door opens to expand it. That is how authoritarianism consolidates power.

While they call this “restoring order,” here’s what they’re really doing:

They’re tearing $96.7 billion out of the economy. That’s how much undocumented immigrants contributed in taxes in 2022, Specifically:

• $59.4 billion in federal taxes

• $37.3 billion in state and local taxes

• $33.9 billion toward social insurance programs they are banned from accessing

Again, these are people paying into Social Security, Medicare, and public infrastructure they’re not even allowed to use.

The source? The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Read it yourself. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

California alone would lose $8.47 billion in annual tax revenue if these mass deportations succeed. Texas would lose $4.87 billion. New York? $3.1 billion. Every state would feel the economic gut punch. And don’t forget: these are programs undocumented workers pay into but cannot use. They’re helping hold up a system that offers them nothing in return.

Now ask yourself: who is going to make up that lost revenue?

You. The poor. The working class. Not the rich, who continue to dodge taxes with impunity.

The federal government has already slashed funding to the states. Wealthy elites are sitting on tax loopholes and lower effective rates than working people. The answer is obvious: the working class will be left to cover the difference. Your rent, your healthcare, your school funding—all of it will take the hit.

What we are watching is economic sabotage wrapped in xenophobic theater. It is designed to scapegoat immigrants, distract from billionaire tax breaks, and destroy civil liberties in the process.

We have reached a dangerous tipping point. A government openly discussing the suspension of habeas corpus is a government no longer pretending to be democratic.

Habeas corpus is the line between freedom and fascism.

If we let this fall, there is no turning back.

This is the moment where people either pay attention or pay the price. Be ready.

Read the order. Learn what’s happening. Sound the alarm. Talk to your communities. And above all, do not get used to THIS.


Originally Posted By u/transcendent167 At 2025-05-10 10:37:42 AM | Source


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[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago

Arm yourselves. He is also hiring 20k white supremisist gang members for department of homeland security too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

To be fair to Trump, I read the blurb at "whitehouse.gov" and while it does hopelessly attempt to construe an "invasion", it's legally untenable. My guess: he's either insane or bluffing.

They’re tearing $96.7 billion out of the economy. That’s how much undocumented immigrants contributed in taxes in 2022

This seems realistic, but could be an underestimate. Google tells me:

Immigrants make up over 19% of the US workforce as of June 2024 — over 32 million out of a total of 169 million — and participate in the labor force at a higher rate than native-born workers, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).

How many of them would be at risk of deportation - illegal, so to say - is a much harder question because people don't tell "oh, by the way, I'm illegal" to the authorities. From an economic viewpoint, harassing 20% of the country's work force with the aim of deporting even 5% of the country's work force is committing political suicide. It's taboo of the highest order.

Stephen Miller and the Trump legal machine are now planning to label undocumented immigration as an “invasion,” which would let them bypass courts and jail people without charges, trials, or legal representation.

If they do, courts will soon rule "this is not an invasion".

If the Trump administration then ignores the courts, both the judicial branch and the population will have a common goal: to bring the executive branch into compliance. Methods will differ, of course.

P.S.

Legal advise from the devil: habeas corpus can't be suspended because of someone's assassination. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm suspending my compliance with the social contract further then. No warrant? No excuses to your bosses if you come to my door, I will be acting in judicious self defense.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It would be hilarious if a reporter asked Trump to explain what habeas corpus is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I can tell you exactly what that looks like. Something something woke something something radical left something else restore America to what it was supposed to be. You might as well ask ChatGPT to explain the Klingon rite of Q'Ronor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

An idiot is stripping us of our rights.

Yeah mate, We aren't laughing...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Well you gotta admit though, that's kinda hilarious. I mean just think of it - the most high and mighty nation about protecting rights, and then we just pick Mungo from Queens, who's like "Mungo no like habeas corpus!" And then we just go to the gulag or whatever. And people are running around like "Oh no why did we pick Mungo, what were we thinking." I mean it's at least kinda funny.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 23 hours ago

They just keep giving me even more more reasons to never set foot in their country ever again.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Free airline tichets and an exit bonus?

As a completely legal, American-born citizen, what'll you pay me to help me escape?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago

Ight, looks like we gonna play this the hard way

[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That second amendment of yours actually has a purpose and this is it. You have the constitutional right to form militias to fight against tyrants.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Quick everyone! Rally behind the fat guy wearing the tac-vest! He will waddle his way towards our mutual freedom...

Oh crap, here come the stealth bombers, that Boston dynamics robot dog with a shotgun strapped to it's back, rodan the flying monster, and whatever else a .7 trillion annual defense budget will buy.

The 2nd amendment was written with a feather...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

So just roll over? i guess that works... Atleast till something about you ends up on a list.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This stopped having relevance the moment police and military stopped using muskets. I say that as an avid hunter and gun owner. You are correct in principle but unless you are packing military grade ammunition and/or explosives, which are illegal in many states, you aren't going to do much against an enemy covered in bullet proof vests and armored vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

In other countries, that kind of problems have been traditionally solved by visiting a military base and politely asking for armed assistance. If things really end up badly (which I hope they don't - a court order should be enough to end Trump's circus) - then the 0.7 trillion will be fighting on both sides.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You haven't paid much attention to how your all powerful military has been losing badly to brown people in the villages, cities, desert and jungle with little to nothing to fight back for decades now.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Lol I assure you as a resident of NY state, the weaponry being used by the "brown" people you speak of, is absolutely not legal to own or accessible for purchase from anyone who isn't also selling drugs.

No more than 4 rounds per clip for any semi automatic rifles. No rifles with 3 shot burst or automatic firing options. No explosives other than tannerite are legal to own or available to purchase. Can't purchase or even hold a pistol without a carry permit which could take several months to a year to get and there is a big IF you even get approved. I could go on a road trip to one of the zero firearm regulation states but even then, I would have to have the firearm sent to my local licensed firearm which follows all of New York's strict regulations so its not like the old days where I could go to Texas, by an automatic or a pistol, leave the store with the firearms, then drive dirty thru every state between Texas and NY. At any point in the idk 18hr drive I get pulled over and I'm looking at felony firearm charges for possession and transporting accross state lines.

To justify those risks, there would have to be a complete societal collapse where my only options are to kill or be killed.

Have you ever even shot a NY State S.A.F.E. Act compliant AR-15 before? Brace for some dark humor... I wouldn't be able to shoot my way out of an elementary school with a SAFE Act compliant AR and if I had to, I doubt I would hit anything with how unsafe the compliant rifles are to shoot. They're awkward as fuck with the weird molded grips they have cuz the safer pistol grips that they normally have look too scary so NY banned them unless you have an AR without a removable magazine. The SAFE act is unsafe as fuck from a firearm safety perspective. If you have a detachable magazine then you are not able to have any removable attachments like a foregrip, muzzle break, flashlight (regular or infrared for night vision scope if you hunt yotes), or foldable barrel tripods. As well as not being able to have any type of adjustable stock or pistol grips. They took the most versatile and safest to use rifles and turned it into the most unbalanced, difficult to hold while aiming rifles you could possibly engineer. If you asked anyonr to design the most unsafe gun to shoot, it would still come out better than the NY State S.A.F.E. Act compliant AR-15.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Know what I have in Canada. A five shot 12 gauge mossberg and a five shot bolt action .303 enfield from WWII that my grandfather used to kill Nazis.

Come across the border with your gestapo and see if I'm waiting for you with what I have available.

Excuses. Stand up for yourself.

Molotove cocktails are below you I suppose. Or ied's. Fucking rednecks have blown up entire buildings in your country with fertilizer. They also sent letter bombs. Some guy recently shot a healthcare executive on the street with a revolver I believe. Another guy took a few shots at your dictator with a rifle. He missed but he tried. The Vietnamese used sharpened sticks with shit smeared on them. Ukrainians had their kids melting styrofoam. Palestinian kids used rocks and got shot for it. They kept throwing the rocks. There are ways.

Let's be honest. You just don't want to stand up or you would.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I literally wrote what the criteria would have to be for me to risk my life but thanks for your useless condescending response.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Wouldn't want you to stand up for your fellow man simply because they are human and you or someone you love will be next if you don't. Silly me. You must not be speaking out, brown, poor, differently sexed, a woman or disabled. You will be in their place eventually however.

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