cross-posted from: https://50501.chat/post/206911
First, Trump issued an executive order to militarize domestic law enforcement. Now a new order has come out. Buried in Project Homecoming, the executive order just released by the White House, is the single most dangerous shift in American civil liberties in a generation.
The same man who empowered ICE with military-grade surveillance, armored vehicles, and counterterror tools is now pushing the legal justification to detain people indefinitely.
The administration is laying the legal groundwork to suspend habeas corpus, the constitutional right that protects people from being detained without trial. It’s the right to not be disappeared. It’s the foundation of due process. And they’re getting ready to tear it away.
How? They’re invoking the Suspension Clause of the Constitution, which only allows habeas to be revoked “in cases of rebellion or invasion.” Stephen Miller and the Trump legal machine are now planning to label undocumented immigration as an “invasion,” which would let them bypass courts and jail people without charges, trials, or legal representation. The administration is trying to reclassify undocumented immigration as an invasion to unlock those powers. That’s the strategy.
Let that sink in. They’re preparing to create a class of people who can be detained indefinitely without ever seeing a judge.
Ask yourselves, If anyone can just be disappeared off the streets without charges, without court appearances, without access to a lawyer then do we still have a democracy?
This is just the beginning, it won’t stop at immigrants. So let’s be clear about what this will look like.
Indefinite detention. No due process. No hearings. No legal protections. We’ve seen this playbook before in history—and it always starts with creating a legal exception for a specific group. In this case, it’s undocumented immigrants. But legal exceptions do not stay contained. Once the precedent is set, it expands. Always.
Ask yourself: who defines what an “invasion” is? Who decides who qualifies as a threat? Protesters? Activists? Whistleblowers? Once the right to challenge detention is suspended for one group, the door opens to expand it. That is how authoritarianism consolidates power.
While they call this “restoring order,” here’s what they’re really doing:
They’re tearing $96.7 billion out of the economy. That’s how much undocumented immigrants contributed in taxes in 2022, Specifically:
• $59.4 billion in federal taxes
• $37.3 billion in state and local taxes
• $33.9 billion toward social insurance programs they are banned from accessing
Again, these are people paying into Social Security, Medicare, and public infrastructure they’re not even allowed to use.
The source? The Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Read it yourself. https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
California alone would lose $8.47 billion in annual tax revenue if these mass deportations succeed. Texas would lose $4.87 billion. New York? $3.1 billion. Every state would feel the economic gut punch. And don’t forget: these are programs undocumented workers pay into but cannot use. They’re helping hold up a system that offers them nothing in return.
Now ask yourself: who is going to make up that lost revenue?
You. The poor. The working class. Not the rich, who continue to dodge taxes with impunity.
The federal government has already slashed funding to the states. Wealthy elites are sitting on tax loopholes and lower effective rates than working people. The answer is obvious: the working class will be left to cover the difference. Your rent, your healthcare, your school funding—all of it will take the hit.
What we are watching is economic sabotage wrapped in xenophobic theater. It is designed to scapegoat immigrants, distract from billionaire tax breaks, and destroy civil liberties in the process.
We have reached a dangerous tipping point. A government openly discussing the suspension of habeas corpus is a government no longer pretending to be democratic.
Habeas corpus is the line between freedom and fascism.
If we let this fall, there is no turning back.
This is the moment where people either pay attention or pay the price. Be ready.
Read the order. Learn what’s happening. Sound the alarm. Talk to your communities. And above all, do not get used to THIS.
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u/transcendent167At2025-05-10 10:37:42 AM| Source
That second amendment of yours actually has a purpose and this is it. You have the constitutional right to form militias to fight against tyrants.
Quick everyone! Rally behind the fat guy wearing the tac-vest! He will waddle his way towards our mutual freedom...
Oh crap, here come the stealth bombers, that Boston dynamics robot dog with a shotgun strapped to it's back, rodan the flying monster, and whatever else a .7 trillion annual defense budget will buy.
The 2nd amendment was written with a feather...
So just roll over? i guess that works... Atleast till something about you ends up on a list.
This stopped having relevance the moment police and military stopped using muskets. I say that as an avid hunter and gun owner. You are correct in principle but unless you are packing military grade ammunition and/or explosives, which are illegal in many states, you aren't going to do much against an enemy covered in bullet proof vests and armored vehicles.
In other countries, that kind of problems have been traditionally solved by visiting a military base and politely asking for armed assistance. If things really end up badly (which I hope they don't - a court order should be enough to end Trump's circus) - then the 0.7 trillion will be fighting on both sides.
You haven't paid much attention to how your all powerful military has been losing badly to brown people in the villages, cities, desert and jungle with little to nothing to fight back for decades now.
Lol I assure you as a resident of NY state, the weaponry being used by the "brown" people you speak of, is absolutely not legal to own or accessible for purchase from anyone who isn't also selling drugs.
No more than 4 rounds per clip for any semi automatic rifles. No rifles with 3 shot burst or automatic firing options. No explosives other than tannerite are legal to own or available to purchase. Can't purchase or even hold a pistol without a carry permit which could take several months to a year to get and there is a big IF you even get approved. I could go on a road trip to one of the zero firearm regulation states but even then, I would have to have the firearm sent to my local licensed firearm which follows all of New York's strict regulations so its not like the old days where I could go to Texas, by an automatic or a pistol, leave the store with the firearms, then drive dirty thru every state between Texas and NY. At any point in the idk 18hr drive I get pulled over and I'm looking at felony firearm charges for possession and transporting accross state lines.
To justify those risks, there would have to be a complete societal collapse where my only options are to kill or be killed.
Have you ever even shot a NY State S.A.F.E. Act compliant AR-15 before? Brace for some dark humor... I wouldn't be able to shoot my way out of an elementary school with a SAFE Act compliant AR and if I had to, I doubt I would hit anything with how unsafe the compliant rifles are to shoot. They're awkward as fuck with the weird molded grips they have cuz the safer pistol grips that they normally have look too scary so NY banned them unless you have an AR without a removable magazine. The SAFE act is unsafe as fuck from a firearm safety perspective. If you have a detachable magazine then you are not able to have any removable attachments like a foregrip, muzzle break, flashlight (regular or infrared for night vision scope if you hunt yotes), or foldable barrel tripods. As well as not being able to have any type of adjustable stock or pistol grips. They took the most versatile and safest to use rifles and turned it into the most unbalanced, difficult to hold while aiming rifles you could possibly engineer. If you asked anyonr to design the most unsafe gun to shoot, it would still come out better than the NY State S.A.F.E. Act compliant AR-15.
Know what I have in Canada. A five shot 12 gauge mossberg and a five shot bolt action .303 enfield from WWII that my grandfather used to kill Nazis.
Come across the border with your gestapo and see if I'm waiting for you with what I have available.
Excuses. Stand up for yourself.
Molotove cocktails are below you I suppose. Or ied's. Fucking rednecks have blown up entire buildings in your country with fertilizer. They also sent letter bombs. Some guy recently shot a healthcare executive on the street with a revolver I believe. Another guy took a few shots at your dictator with a rifle. He missed but he tried. The Vietnamese used sharpened sticks with shit smeared on them. Ukrainians had their kids melting styrofoam. Palestinian kids used rocks and got shot for it. They kept throwing the rocks. There are ways.
Let's be honest. You just don't want to stand up or you would.
I literally wrote what the criteria would have to be for me to risk my life but thanks for your useless condescending response.
Wouldn't want you to stand up for your fellow man simply because they are human and you or someone you love will be next if you don't. Silly me. You must not be speaking out, brown, poor, differently sexed, a woman or disabled. You will be in their place eventually however.
Uh yeah, nothing like a violent revolution to make things better. I shudder to think about the kind of authoritarian government that would be created out of fellow citizens murdering each other.
We need a peaceful revolution. Anything else is just tantamount to exponentially more human suffering.
Can you think of a better way to get a tyrant out of power? One who changes the laws so they don't work against him? This is exactly why this amendment exists. A last ditch effort to get back to freedom.
Yes, resistance and protesting. Everyone stop buying and a work strike. There are tons of ways other than running around murdering people. I know you guys are just a bunch of edgelords but you really should educate yourself on how to solve these problems.
We could definitely use an extremist co-opted faction to help with negotiations, but once that devolves into terrorism it becomes a lot harder to get what you want.
https://prt.civicus.org/strategies/
Terrorism is what ICE is doing right now.
At the behest of people who would be massively effected by boycotts.
Not going to argue there, but what is your point?
My point is i don't think people need to run around and murder people, but an armed militia to forcefully remove the cancer might be needed, as allowed by law. Peaceful protests are not making a difference.
This 2nd amendment fantasy of your is just that. Having grown up with militia people I can tell you they would far more likely be assisting ICE instead of fighting them nowadays.
Protesting hasn't even started yet, have you seen videos from the civil rights movements?
It is kind of sad because you have been defeated before you have even gotten started and the only solution you can come up with is to form an armed gang. Very tribal and basic as fuck (see history)
I will say having a militaristic element could be useful in negotiating, but unfortunately without discipline it could cause far more harm than good.
Protesting absolutely has started, and look how that's going. Tribal instinct is the part of human nature that makes change when it's needed. It os part of human nature because no amount of talking is going to get a tyrant out of power.
Just watch when the next election is vastly different than what the US is expecting. Two of the branches of government are being completely bypassed. Congress is doing nothing, and judicial is powerless to enforce.
I'm sitting here in another country watching the great tower fall and all the excuses given to do nothing are astounding.
Yeah, I think you are missing a little too much context to have this conversation. HaVe PhUn!
we’re coming up to death camps as the alternative
Speak softly and carry a big stick.