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VMware perpetual license holders receive cease-and-desist letters from Broadcom (arstechnica.com)

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

This is why KVM is a good option, or even Hyper-V for Windows hosts. The only problem with KVM Is graphical support for paravirtualized drivers is basic at best with no full 3D acceleration that I know of for Windows guests; virtio-win isn't exactly the best option graphically and QXL to my knowledge is even more lacking, but one can just pass a hardware GPU through over vfio-pci for that.

Unfortunately for Mac hosts, Apple has no KVM/Hyper-V equivalent so your best option for virtualization there is Parallels.

(and it's honestly kinda stupid that Apple can't build their own KVM equivalent into the Darwin kernel which macOS is based on)

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I realize there's all sorts of Microsoft hate out there, mostly justified, but no one has mentioned hyper-v as a replacement for VMware. I've got a dozen or so machines running on a single VMware host and after the broadcom buyout decided to swap over, havent pulled the trigger yet as I'm using it to get a new server and wait for our support contract to end.

In the small/medium business space is proxmox a better bet?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Give bhyve a try. Especially on illumos host.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you're used to Microsoft servers and have a Microsoft network it integrates really nicely and is great to manage. Plus, it's free.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Its not free. You need to license the base windows server. They killed the free hyper-v server offering.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Another vote for Hyper-V.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

I had a great experience with hyper-v. 2 nodes running about 60 vms for 7 years.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago

From my experience running heavily Hyper-V over the last 15 years, don't be afraid of it, it's worth the look. Especially for a single node like you're talking, no reason not to in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Proxmox is definitely on its way to become a viable replacement for sure. There's also OpenShift from Red Hat which could be worth a look at as well.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why would anyone use it over qemu? Is this a business enterprise thing?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There is a major difference between running a vm on your desktop and orchestrating a fleet of highly available virtual machines. Just one example might be vmotion. You can move a virtual machine from one physical host to another in real time with 0 interruption to services running on that host.

That’s some incredible stuff. Now days you can use things like XCP-ng to do the same but VMware was ahead of the pack for a decade.

They started dying when they were squeezed between cloud hyper scalars and the cheaper alternative hypervisors that finally had caught up.

Then the corpse was bought by Broadcom who is currently trying to milk it before the body completely rots.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can do live migration like that with qemu, I do it all the time with Proxmox, which uses qemu under the hood.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You’re not wrong in 2025. But VMware was able do it in 2003.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I stupidly bought a VMWare Workstation license when I first got on the Windows 11 train. Bright eyed and bushy tailed and all that rubbish. My experience was such shit that I abandoned it all for Linux and Virtualbox.

Fuck Microsoft, fuck VMWare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I was a happy camper with Hyper-V on server operating systems, was always a PITA on desktop versions though. Wonder if that's changed. (Doubt.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

qemu ftw.

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