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It’s strange, in many ways, to be back, or at least back under these circumstances, watching Doctor Who tick down to the first time since Time of the Doctor [2013] that an episode will air when the next episode hasn’t been shot. And that was a two week period towards a commissioned episode—Deep Breath shot in January [2014]. Here we head towards the great unknown, perhaps even the wilderness. It’s faintly unsettling—I’ve not written about Doctor Who in a moment where it might not come back before.

— Elisabeth Sandifer, in her review of "The robot revolution"

I'm not going to wallow in predictions of doom and gloom here, just note that what Sandifer outlines here is fairly out of the ordinary. It certainly shows that the joint venture with Disney hasn't played out as expected.

To rewind a little, when Russell T Davies returned as a showrunner, he announced that an initially two-season distribution deal with Disney+ would guarantee a steady pace of one season plus a christmas special per year, no gap years.

The part of this not spoke out loud was the implied expectation that Disney would be blown away by the first new season and just set up a recurring allowance. In that case, the BBC, Davies, and Bad Wolf Productions would get to work on season 3 and 4 before the second one had even aired. It seems everybody expected to start shooting early this year; Ncuti Gatwa said as much on a talk show.

Well... that didn't happen, in part because the streaming market has gotten ever tighter, but presumably also due to the show not quite performing to Disney's expectations — Gatwa's live remarks were edited out in the streaming version. Instead, the House of the Mouse has decided to remain undecided on future funding until season 2 has aired. So you see that planned production buffer that ensured yearly seasons without gaps? Yeah, no. That's because it isn't there anymore.

Even if Disney agree to distribute another season or two, we should definitely expect a gap year until we see new Who episodes again (not counting the upcoming War between the land and the sea spin-off). First hitch is, if the BBC doesn't secure another deal with Disney, they'll have to find a new funding partner. The Beeb is in fairly dire financial straits, certainly in terms of producing a costly, effects-heavy show like Doctor Who.

Second hitch — leaving an in-demand young star like Ncuti Gatwa hanging when he expected to be working through the first half of the year could turn out to cost Doctor Who its lead. Gatwa will be playing on stage during fall, so that's pretty much any slim hope of a christmas special for 2025 shot down. The rumour mill has it he has checked out of the show entirely by now, but that remains unconfirmed.

Overall it seems we need to acknowledge that Davies' grand plan has suffered a severe setback. Maybe a new season will appear in 2027 at the earliest? But then. with what international partner? And featuring which actor in the lead? We're in for interesting times, I suppose.


Note: I didn't source all information in the above beside the Sandifer quote, but I'm 99% certain I can dig up references to support everything without resorting to pure speculation. Or, a quick online search could get you similar results without me having to :)

Also, I know our mod @[email protected] isn't keen on speculation and Fantasy Football-esque media analyses, so give me a heads up if this is completely OT for this community.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I know our mod @[email protected] isn’t keen on speculation and Fantasy Football-esque media analyses, so give me a heads up if this is completely OT for this community.

No, it's fair game. I would summarize my dislike of speculation this way:

  1. Speculating too much about stories ofte leads to disappointment and resentment when the actual stories go in a different direction.

  2. Speculating about ratings and the business aspect of things tends to be a dead end, with people distorting the small amounts of available information to suit their own narrative, whatever that may be.

But neither of these things are completely off-limits, as long as everyone's level-headed and respectful about it.

And I'm pleased to say that this community, small as it may be, is very level-headed and respectful, so far.


Now, on to the meat and potatoes...

The Disney deal was announced in October 2022 - Bob Chapek was running the show, and I believe they were still at the tail end of that period when the media giants were burning money to drive subscriptions. About a month later, Chapek was out and Bob Iger was back in at Disney. By May 2023, the industry had started its ongoing seismic shift, and Disney+ was actively removing content to cut costs.

I think the media landscape has changed so much, in such a short time, that it's anyone's guess what will happen next. Hell, as of this week, He Who Shall Not Be Named has been threatening 100% tariffs on foreign media, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean.

I agree that a "gap year" is inevitable - this is another thing that we're seeing across the industry (I'm looking at you, Star Trek), and I don't think it's a very smart way to keep people engaged. Even if Disney re-ups the deal, it's way too late to get a new series up and running.

I'm also aware of the rumours that Gatwa has already moved on, and...maybe? I guess I'm deliberately not engaging with that stuff. If it happens, it happens. His work on the show has already been strong enough to leave a lasting impression, so I will consider it a success even if it's short.

If Disney doesn't re-up the deal, I don't think it would be too difficult to find another international partner. It's still a very prominent global brand, and I'm really not concerned that the show will be de facto cancelled for any significant period of time.

One last thing...I will go my grave confused as to how and why the Disney deal didn't include the back catalogue. Absolute insanity.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the clarification on speculative posts, I agree with your reasoning both on the story and showbiz parts. And also thanks for the "meat and potatoes" info on changing Disney management.

I'll be disappointed but not entirely surprised if Gatwa's Doctor becomes a casualty of these combined circumstances. It would be interesting to see him complete a three season run — or four since the plan was to shoot seasons in pairs — but we're in no way entitled to that as viewers, especially not at the risk of his career prospects.

If he's unavailable for the foreseeable future, or altogether, my suggestion will always be to do a fully Doctor-lite season. The Doctor has disappeared, possibly regenerated, and their friends from all of time and space band together to find them. Start with the surviving companions and the Fugitive Doctor, and throw in a grab bag of side characters from the show's recent history. At the end of the season we meet the new Doctor, or pass the lead to Jo Martin.

Call me, Russell! 😛

how and why the Disney deal didn't include the back catalogue

That's the real head scratcher. Maybe BBC wanted to have their "complete archive" iPlayer launch first, and hold out to sweeten the extension deal with Disney? Or the Disney people looked at classic stories like "Talons of Weng Chiang" and said, 'Nope, we have yellowface at home'?

Either way, I don't recall who has the international streaming rights for the 2005-22 seasons, but that would probably be a good place to start looking for new partners... And again, maybe offer to throw in an extra 26 vintage seasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

a fully Doctor-lite season.

I mentioned in the latest episode discussion that I'm kind of sick of the "does UNIT exist this week" trend of the last 20 years - a Doctor-lite season would be an interesting way to develop a stable Earth status quo, which I would find very refreshing. I don't care about DW continuity that much, but I do wish they'd commit to something long-term.

I don’t recall who has the international streaming rights for the 2005-22 seasons

It's currently on Amazon Prime in Canada - not sure if that's the case everywhere. Amazon's got deep pockets, and for all his faults, Bezos is said to be a big sci-fi fan...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago

Let's hope an earthbound, Doctor-less miniseries sets some kind of precedent for how and if UNIT exists on a regular basis :) I'd still hope for some cosmic adventuring in the main series, even without the Doctor.

As for Bezos, wasn't he in the 2009 Star Trek movie already?

Edit: Sorry, it was Star Trek Beyond that he was in