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Well hey, when your invisible friend says kill, you kill.
Whats even funnier is that in the original (Jewish interoperation) god does this as a joke. Yes god literally makes a bet with angels over if he'll acturally go through with it. Then said angels go down to earth to attempt to sway him because they wanted to win the bet.
How exactly is the Jewish interpretation different from the Christian one? I thought the Christian Old Testament was identical to the Torah. I ask as someone who was raised Methodist.
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All religions suck. Even if you make a religion that's normal, people will make it weird.
But no worries the kid as a sleep during the decision making. Right? I don't recall exactly from last time I read the book.
No wonder they are always in war.
And then God was all like "It was just a joke dog. Why you gettin' all triggered?"
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Not sacrificing his son is actually a late edit, this is known because through though they changed the text to an angel stopping him, it still preserved the original language that describes ''THEY went up the mountain'' and ''HE came down the mountain''
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And they’ll keep on circumcising their sons while unironically screaming about anyone who respects trans rights being out to surgically mutilate all children. What a world.
The most important question: which child did he try to kill? Was it Isaac, the son he fathered with his barren wife? Or was it Ishmael, the son he fathered with his wife's handmaiden?
Adam and Eve were the first humans.
They beget Cain and Abel.
Cain kills Abel.
Then he wanders around, meets his wife and builds a city ???
Most of the bible makes no sense, except in a symbolic way.
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Fun fact: Abraham goes up the mountain with his son but comes down alone, suggesting that in the original text he went through with the child sacrifice.
The Bible has tons of edits like this, it's fun to spot them—and even more so to guess the intent behind them. Often when a seemingly irrelevant detail (or an entire chapter) is inserted in the middle of a story, that's an edit (although there are also genuine errors). In general, the Bible is not as well put-together as people tend to think. In this case, whoever wrote this wanted to make clear that Judaism does not condone human sacrifice, in contrast to other contemporary religions.
Others (chiefly those who consider the text to be holy) interpret the pronoun change as indicative of an emotional separation between Abraham and his son, as if following these events they don't want to walk together any more.
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I was never raised religiously. My first exposure to the Bible was the lego comic the brick testament. It was batshit insane as a kid and it's batshit insane now
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Even as a child i used to hear this story and go “that’s fucked up. Why would god ask him to do that? What a psycho. And why would Abraham agree to do it?! If god is asking you to murder your own kid, maybe that god is shit”
Why would a loving god torture people for eternity? I guess we'll never know.
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As a fun fact, some interpretations say that by binding Isaac and being ready to proceed, Abraham failed the test, either in the eyes of God or at the very least in the eyes of the author. The second verse has God saying (JPS Contemporary Torah)
Take your son, your favored one, Isaac, whom you love […] [emphasis mine]
And after stopping him, the angel (which is identified with God) says
I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your favored one, from Me.
The description of Abraham's love for Isaac is missing, despite identical phrasing (also in Hebrew) otherwise. It's as if God (or the author) is taunting Abraham.
This also raises a concern about God's omniscience; he says "now I know that you fear God", as if he wasn't previously sure. There are many ways to resolve this, but the Bible is just very inconsistent everywhere.
Not to mention that those same 4 billion people are convinced that it is an act of love. Their god would be abusive as fuck if it existed.
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He has those crazy eyes.
"Old man listens to cloud" is an even scarier headline.
A lovely test of one's faith is whether they'll stab and burn their child on command.
By the way, if someone is constantly testing you, that's abusive. Run. Away.
Gabriel: what else could a test to see whether someone would stab and burn a child possible be!?
God: a test of obedience and faith!
Gabriel: a test to see if someone has faith in voices in his head that tell him to murder children IS A PSYCHOPATH TEST!!
God: well I'm sure there is something more psychotic than obeying murderous voices in your head
Gabriel: well, I can't think of much
omg 💀
As they say, if you talk to God, that’s praying, but if God talks to you, that’s schizophrenia.
If you talk to god, you are an idiot and if he talks to you, you are a schizophrenic idiot.
If someone finds comfort in talking to God, then they're comfortable. If it produces a desirable result, then it's desirable.
Calling others morons for disagreeing with their way of life, however, solves nothing. I was a Reddit atheist at one point, and I'm glad I'm no longer one.
And if it produces nothing but example after example after example of negative results? What is it then?
Thinking that it's a one-size-fits-all solution. In some people, it helps. In others, it hurts. If people found their own faith, instead of having it handed to them at birth, the world would look a whole lot different now.
Perhaps, it would even be a good one.
Religion is a helluva drug.
I'm pretty sure it started with some chick named Mary cheating on her spouse, and then "Uh, no, it's uh, it's... MAGIC! Yeah, I got pregnant from magic! But the magic was a person you see, named uhm, looks over at pet dog, named do- uh no, g-o-d, his name was God! God gave us a magic baby! Yay!"
That's the new testament. Pretty modern and woke stuff compared to the old testament which is the common root of Abrahamic religions.
And that tells a lot about the state of the whole thing, really.
don't forget the part where she got her fiance/husband totally snookered and/or dosed with magic mushrooms or something; and then appeared to him pretending to be an angel telling him to shut the fuck up and go with it.
(or maybe she got a friend to be the angel?)
Edit: also, can we talk about how if the story is real... there was no chance that Mary could give meaningful consent?
For religion rape is a feature not a bug
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The power of women. She and few schizophrenics changed the whole society.
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