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[–] [email protected] 3 points 56 minutes ago

You miss spelled it... Its not quiet quitting... Its doing what's necessary and nothing excess.. if you aren't paid for it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Considering that work ethic literally killed people: Good.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Man, fuck all those guys for doing their job to a sufficient quality and quantity to not get fired, eh?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago

Well productivity is a good thing, I think the problem is the incentives. Their government essentially funnels all the money to their elderly via monetary policy, and the youth get the table scraps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

"Quiet quitting" is not a trend. Like, at all. If you have a coworker that doesn't want to do their job, your employer has a shitty employee. That's it, an isolated incident. The term itself is basically the same as boomers screeching about how "nobody wants to work anymore"...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

If you have a coworker that doesn’t want to do their job, your employer has a shitty employee.

I think it's less that people don't want to do any work at all or less than the "minimum" (except for some rare cases), and more that people are doing only the minimum, not putting in any extra effort, not going above and beyond - because their salaries are stagnating, their employees are only paying them the minimum and not a cent more, and their extra efforts are going unrecognized. Ask me how I know. I have seen it myself personally, multiple times at multiple companies, and I have seen it through my friends experiences as well.

In unions, it's called work-to-rule. Most jobs/companies don't have unions, so we get "quiet quitting" instead. The more conditions stay the same, or the worse they become, the worse the "quiet quitting" becomes.

If you want to motivate your employees, reward them. Give them something to strive towards. Reward their extra efforts! Don't just give them the bare minimum and hope that they will keep going above and beyond for you, because that's not realistic and it's not sustainable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago

I think it’s a bit of a misnomer. It’s not that people are abandoning their jobs, it’s that they are abandoning the toxic mindset that says line must go up, that good people are good worker drones for their superiors, etc. It’s more like quitting your career but keeping your job even if in a half-assed way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

nobody wants to work anymore

I just fire back with "nobody wants to pay us anymore" now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 12 hours ago

FYI the "Japanese crazy long hours and hard work ethic" BS only applies to corporate jobs.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-work-week-by-country

[–] [email protected] 44 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate the 'quiet quitting' term. It puts the onus on the people who are tired of the inhumane hours and treatment, and the accompanying meager pay. Instead of putting it on the companies and government whose policies and ethics are fostering these awful conditions which engender these sorts of worker responses. It's not quiet quitting. It's holding boundaries between work and personal life. It's not allowing the company to steal your time away from you. It's preventing the company from overstepping their position in your life. It's so many things that are important and 'quiet quitting' does those people a disservice in favor of a catchy corporate approved soundbite. I find that disgusting.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

I did not find any proper meaning of phrase quiet quitting

It might as well mean - working only the amount you are paid for - which sounds totally reasonable.

Totally corporate worded article.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

We used to just call it Work to Rule.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's a phrase meant to replace the old phrase "working your wage", because that way of viewing it makes the whole situation less dramatic and more noble … and generates less clicks. Classic newsspeak.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I always took it to mean "doing the least amount of work possible without getting fired." If someone's making an effort to work the amount they're paid for, I wouldn't consider it quiet quitting.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 21 hours ago

we should normalize to punch everyone in the gut who uses the words "quiet quitting".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It was probably higher before, but it wasn't as acceptable to say it as it is today.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago

You're basically right. Back when unions were a thing, they dubbed this behavior "working your wage" I.e. not volunteering for unpaid labor. "Quiet quitting" is a neologism designed by a think tank to shift the burden of responsibility to the employee

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah because they started to get fucked over

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Heh, I've seen this personally. I work for a Japanese company, and part of my job is coordinating tooling installations with the factory I'm stationed at (pick a chip fab in the US, I've probably been there). When we get a tool onsite, I get an install team directly from our factory in Japan who handles all the physical installation aspects. They work hard, efficiently, and with the utmost care for the finer details (some of these tools are expected to last 20+ years - we have a few that have been in production for nearly as long with very little fuss). Occasionally, they will finish their tasks early the last couple days and take off after lunch, letting me know of this beforehand and that their daily reports will be sent to me and other relevant managers at the "usual" time, with a wink and a nod.

I don't care how much time they clock, as long as shit gets done properly. Haven't had any issues.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How is this related to quiet quitting?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago

Hmm, what's your definition of quiet quitting? The definition I understand is doing your job as it is described to you, but not doing any of the "going the extra mile" for free, or putting in extra effort beyond what the job description entails.

I'm also curious if those replying to you also have the same or different definitions, since conversations only work if we agree on the definition of terms.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Considering the article specifically mentions Japan, and that typical Japanese work culture is quite literally the opposite of what I've observed, I think this is very related.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It is an interesting anecdote that was worth sharing, but quiet quitting employees underperform and do the bare minimum while watching the seconds until the end of their shift. Your teams are doing the opposite.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You can't say employees are both doing the bare minimum and underperforming. It doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

A person doing the bare minimum underperforms the average worker.

Makes sense to me.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago

Generally, leaving work early in Japan is (was?) seen as lazy and a sign of a morally dubious person. Keep in mind that, traditionally, people in Japan are expected to work 12-16 hour days with no complaints and, for businesspeople, sleep at the office if there is a lot of work to be done.

The fact that people are eager to leave early and don't think of it as inherently shameful signifies a huge shift in culture.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago

Japanese work culture often meant staying late and working unpaid overtime to appear extra-productive. Now you've got an anecdote describing people who finish the job, consider their work done, and cut out early despite not having fulfilled an arbitrarily dictated number of hours worked. It is a sharp reversal in behavior.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago

The Japanese work ethic doesn't even make sense and does more harm than good. If you don't have time for yourself or family the society will collapse (already happening). To be clear, I'm not talking about being diligent work, but working 8+ hours every single day.

Many Japanese don't leave work at 5pm even though those are the official business hours because it's rude to leave before the boss leaves. So people stay at work until 7 or 8pm. Many times having to also go drinking with co-workers or the boss. So, depending on the day, you may end up with 1-2 hours for yourself. No wonder they aren't having children, and depression rates are sky high.

Same applies to Korea.

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