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Around Germany and Greece there were other countries. They went by names like frugal four and PIIGS. They forced "austerity" and stricter working hours onto indebted countries to save their own banks.

The colours on this map show well that northern "productivity" is not about working hours, but about other topics that did not get addressed. Among these topics are also tax heavens (think the Netherlands) and money laundering (think Austria's special relationship with Russia).

So it was nothing more than poor political leadership without vision.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I didn't remember Greeks were accused of working too little hours. I thought the situation was blamed on corruption, tax evasion and ineptitude of the country's leaders.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

English and Russians don't even have jobs! /s

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (7 children)

OP doesn't seem to understand how these data are compiled.

In most tourism-related jobs (e.g. restaurants), people don't count their hours.

This completely distorts the data for countries like France.

In Scandinavian countries and Germany, is common for 1 parent to work 50%. They also earn 50% (actually even less). This also distorts the data for these countries.

Finally, many of these states are about contractual hours. Not actual. If you work overtime, this is not accounted for. If you don't declare employees, is the same. And if you don't work, while being at work, i it's still counted as work.

Final word about the critics of Spain, Italy, Portugal and Greece. Most of these people criticized the fact that they take long breaks and "waste time" while at work (=do chitchat).

They usually don't realize, that while Germans commonly leave work around 5pm, people in other countries stay until 6, 7 or even 8pm.

For the chitchat part, it's mainly that they don't value it.

Didn't get too offended by idiots ;-)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

This graphic is not correct at least concerning Switzerland where a full time work week is 41 hours.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Am Greek. Working 44 hours on average (40 during winter, 48 during the summer).

Many in the tourism industry, which brings in 13% of Greece's GDP, work for over 50 hours on average for 6 months, then they work mostly uninsured labor jobs in the winter, so that map only gives you half the truth.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that 'hours of work in main' job really does something here.

I mean the guy working three part time jobs would clock in maybe 20ish hours on the main job but maybe 60 overall.

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