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Hello world,

as many of you probably already know, Lemmy is an open source project and its development is funded by donations.

Unfortunately, as is often the case, donations amounts are often going down over time if people are not aware of their necessity. When older users leave the platform they may stop donating, while new users joining will typically not be aware of this and won't start donating to even things out or even go towards an overall increase in donations.

All of the services provided by our non-profit Fedihosting Foundation are dependent on the development of FOSS platforms, which we can host without paying any licensing or other fees, instead only being required to pay for the infrastructure cost. We are currently investing a small part (€50 each) of the donations we receive in development of Lemmy and Mastodon, but the majority of the donations we receive are used for covering infrastructure costs. We're currently just about breaking even with the donations we receive, but it's certainly not enough to cover a large part of Lemmy or other software development costs.

We're looking to support sustainable software development for all the services we provide and will post similar announcements on our other platforms to promote donations towards the respective development teams in the coming days.

You can find the original announcement by @[email protected] below:

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

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If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can't go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Im okay, was gonna donate. But not if it supports lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I used to put up $50/mo to Hexbear, until they banned me for defending the DSA.

So far, the politics on this community have been dogshit. But the moderation has been generally fair, friendly, and functional. To you, I say, Shut Up and Take My Money. Thanks for letting me continue my shitposting habits, even if we've agreed to disagree.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

That’s what’s so rich. Used to donate to the Lemmy devs and then got censored on .ml for not bootlicking the CCP. Lemmy devs have a PR problem, maybe that’s why they’re struggling.

I still contribute to world and voyager.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Lotta no's based on people who can't stand being in a room with other people just because of different political beliefs. I don't follow .ml's philosophy, and I don't care. Take em, leave em. Whatever.

They aren't why I'm not on Reddit.

Remember why you're here. If you can't handle discourse with people who see the world differently then go back to Mastodon and save us your intolerance. Discourse is the lifeblood of a site like this, different opinions are part of being human. Grow up.

but t-they support such and such genocide!!

Then protest them louder. Don't bring the rest of us down over it, not that it isn't mostly sensationalist to begin with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren’t why I’m not on Reddit.

Some people would rather eat the fascist AI slop for free than to pay a softdev who says "Trans Rights".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The devs have posted anti-trans stuff, actually.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Lotta no’s based on people who can’t stand being in a room with other people just because of different political beliefs.

Start by tolerating that disagreement then?

I can stand being in the same room as people with shit opinions, even to a degree people who promote war crimes like these guys, but fuck if I am up for giving them a salary.

If you have to misrepresent people who disagree with you to make a point, it is not a good point sorry.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Remember why you’re here. If you can’t handle discourse with people who see the world differently then go back to Mastodon and save us your intolerance

You're asking people to "tolerate" support of human rights abuse by authoritarian governments like China and Russia...

Lots of people have problems with authoritarianism, especially now.

That's not even getting into those two individuals personal views on things like LGBTQ. Which shouldn't be surprising when given the stances on LGBTQ by the authoritarian governments they idolize.

And before anyone says "they don't talk about that stuff, look at their profile!"....

Even if it wasn't obvious they have alts already, here's one of them admitting it:

https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005/18404597

Acting like directly giving money to them somehow doesn't support them is ludacris.

If their political stances truly don't matter to you. Are you ok buying a Tesla still because it's an EV?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The devs know they're taking a hard donation cut thanks to those who want to censor the site. They're pushing lemmy.ml on you even though they know you'll disagree. They went out of their way to mention it last like it's a stain they don't want to speak of.

If Lemmy is developed by those same authoritarians or their apologizers, then you shouldn't stop at donations and you should delete your account.

But yeah, personally, I can censor my own feed. I say let them stay and be ousted by everyone they speak to. It's more hurtful to their egos to be ignored and know they're just wasting their time.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

If Lemmy is developed by those same authoritarians or their apologizers, then you shouldn’t stop at donations and you should delete your account.

Using a different instance based on their code does not support them in any way.

But it's important to draw the distinction between not wanting to give them money, and not wanting .ml to exist.

I'm fine with them having their corner of the internet, but I'm sure as shit not going to financially support them. Especially because if they quit, it wouldn't end Lemmy. It's open source code, once it's out there, it's just out there.

The entire point of this is no one person has the keys.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The comments are a full microcosm showcasing why Lemmy will stay underground and it will never overtake reddit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it possible donate to Lemmy development without contributing to Lemmy.ml?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The donation pays salary for devs and (barely) not site maintenance, but the devs are also basically lemmy.ml, so the distinction may not feel useful.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So can I contribute to lemmy.world?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Sure. And then they can contribute it to .ml, because that's who is providing the labor to keep the site up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Oh wow, I see.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Nah.

ml can shit itself and rot. So can the rest of Lemmy if that's not a price that's worth being paid.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These money will go to two people who created and actively maintain and promote an instance pretending the brutal murder of Ukranians is not happening but also necessary, and deleting and banning contrary opinions.

No.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Damn. This guy's right. I'm going back to Reddit and Facebook, safe in the knowledge I'll never be exposed to a Russian bot or paid influencer.

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