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cross-posted from: https://feddit.nl/post/33407329

We've all already talked about switching away from google/apple maps to something like openstreetmaps, mapy, tomtom amigo, etc. But all of these services use openstreetmaps (UK non-profit) as a source and they still miss a lot of local data even for bigger cities!

If you have some spare time, think about adding a bit of data to the map with your local knowledge. There's a lot of business data missing that is on google maps like websites, phone numbers and opening hours but also stuff like parking lots and whether they're publicly accessible and free or not. Adding these makes the competition of ALL services using OSM as a source better.

I also use the mobile app https://streetcomplete.app/ and https://every-door.app/ to add data while on my walks, these make my walks more engaging and I actually take longer ones + see new places because of it. Streetcomplete also has a focus on important and easy to collect data with their default filters, and you can choose what you want to contribute.

If you really want to get into the thick of it and contribute more than just simple data you can always check out https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_to_contribute and see in which of the many ways you can contribute!

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago

Whenever we bike ride gravel roads, we always correct the surface.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I noticed one problem with the application; if you make a mistake you cant fix it yourself or cancel, even if you turn off automatic sending. There should be one more step before sending so you can review and edit your work first.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I suggest using streetcomplete for more basic things, it has an undo button!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I do use it, but I cant find undo anywhere from it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 25 minutes ago

Bottom left of "Street Complete"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm trying, but it's hard to stay motivated when the information on a lot of local areas I visit are so damn old.

There are entire areas where it looks like it acquired the data 5-10 years ago from some other mapping software (Google, Bing, something else), and hasn't updated since. It didn't have all of my street information for my neighborhood area, so I started there first. I didn't really mind it too much, because, hey, Google didn't have it filled in several years ago, either. I started using Vespucci and drew out some of the houses and streets.

But, as soon as I expand out, there are strip malls with really outdated information. StreetComplete tries to ask me questions about these places that were replaced long ago, and it doesn't have the tools to allow me to carve out sections of the strip mall, since it only thinks there are two shops, but there's now 8-10 shops. So, I go back to Vespucci and try to fill it out, but I only have so much time before I'm going to some other location, and I don't really have the time to draw out even the map details in the place where I'm parked. I feel like I'm the only one that bothers and the entire city is out-of-date. It's overwhelming.

If bots somehow got this information back then, then why can't it pull this data now? Certain sections and entire cities desperately need a refresh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Perhaps something to bring up on the forums to see if anybody has input on how to do this! I personally haven't had such a bad case locally yet. But you're having a great impact updating it as most likely people pass up on using OSM based services because of it, and by having it up to date it may encourage those people to switch in the future.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

I made 7 contributions last month

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If I wanted to add some off-road bike trails to OSM, how would I got about doing that?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

I'd personally use the web editor at https://www.openstreetmap.org/ Make an account, go to the zone you want to edit and press the edit button. Add a line and once the line is added you can add a type to it (you can check the wiki if you don't know which one to use)

You can enable tracking on streetcomplete that will track your walk/bike/whatever and you can use that as a guide on the web app should it be hard via satellite (do note that this tracking is posted publicly).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

This page has some useful information: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle

There's a section there about off-road trails

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Can this be done offline on Android devices and uploaded later? We ask because we currently have no data on our phone and it would be useful to edit when out, and then upload when we get back home.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago

I do believe as long as you've opened your app to download the quests first it works, although I have not tried that.

You could also look at https://organicmaps.app/nl/ if that has offline editing for maps

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's possible with StreetComplete since you can choose when to submit your quests

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

Oh, awesome! We will do it when out and about then.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there any way to do this on iDevices?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

People have suggested https://organicmaps.app/nl/ to me which should have an editing function (I have not checked out the app yet)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

EveryDoor works well on iOS for simple things like updating or adding shops etc.

"Go Map!!" is another one, and while I find it's interface a bit harder to work with, it has a "Quests" setting, which lets you configure a filter of missing tags that show up on the map.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

Thanks so much! 🙂

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

+1 for Go Map!!, it’s what I use to map on the go.

For anything more complex it can’t do such as multipolygon edits or aligning nodes in a line or other polishing I then send the change to JOSM on the computer if necessary.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks! TIL about EveryDoor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago

Enjoy and thanks for contributing!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh nice, I've thought about contributing to osm for a long time but this makes it so much easier to do that!!

I've looked into what I can do in my close vicinity and there are many roads that still miss their width. However, the app suggests to install an app (streetmeasure) to measure the width. This app is however based on Google AR services (that don't work on my degoogled phone. How do you guys deal with that? Do you just ignore those tasks or do you guesstimate the road width by eye?

Oh, and another thing: If you like something to do on your walks, may I suggest also looking into iNaturalist (and the companion app Seek), too. While you are walking around you can find so much stuff out there that you've previously overlooked. When I go through any street now I spot bugs and plants everywhere!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I personally turned off the road width data as I always have to cross the roads and it both feels awkward and is just not that practical imo. But you can use any other measuring app if any exist to get the width and manually put in.

I'll check out iNaturalist! Thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I'll probably do the same :)

Have fun with iNat!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

@flora_explora @Kualdir
I think here's the answer for you (from the translations) :tony_laughing: :mastostuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

You could use a tape measure instead, but that might be a little awkward, after all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry, what? I don't understand what you mean :/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago

@flora_explora
𝙷𝚘𝚠𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛, 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚊𝚙𝚙 𝚜𝚞𝚐𝚐𝚎𝚜𝚝𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚒𝚗𝚜𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚕 𝚊𝚗 𝚊𝚙𝚙 (𝚜𝚝𝚛𝚎𝚎𝚝𝚖𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚞𝚛𝚎) 𝚝𝚘 𝚖𝚎𝚊𝚜𝚞𝚛𝚎 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚠𝚒𝚍𝚝𝚑. 𝚃𝚑𝚒𝚜 𝚊𝚙𝚙 𝚒𝚜 𝚑𝚘𝚠𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛 𝚋𝚊𝚜𝚎𝚍 𝚘𝚗 𝙶𝚘𝚘𝚐𝚕𝚎 𝙰𝚁 𝚜𝚎𝚛𝚟𝚒𝚌𝚎𝚜 (𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝 𝚍𝚘𝚗’𝚝 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚔 𝚘𝚗 𝚖𝚢 𝚍𝚎𝚐𝚘𝚘𝚐𝚕𝚎𝚍 𝚙𝚑𝚘𝚗𝚎. 𝙷𝚘𝚠 𝚍𝚘 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚐𝚞𝚢𝚜 𝚍𝚎𝚊𝚕 𝚠𝚒𝚝𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚝?

You asked what to do to solve this problem. And… I gave you the solution ;)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Another who loves Street Complete. Makes my evening walks less random. I love the idea of using open street maps, but the one thing keeping me on google is the real time traffic redirecting 🫤 I do use organic maps for hikes, it's great for offline. I just wish there were some better option for traffic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Tomtom Amigo also uses traffic data! Although their dataset is ofc smaller than google maps as less people use it. (Still not FOSS, but at least not google)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have been loving https://maproulette.org/ for when I'm on my computer!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Imma check that out thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Tell me what to get for my stupid iPhone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Every Door works on iPhone

Edit: someone told me https://organicmaps.app/ also has editing functions and it has an iOS app

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You replace your stupid iPhone with one that allows third-party apps.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Work supplied, but thanks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I thought it's possible to sideload apps on iOS? Or is it only possible in the eu?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like Every Door app, it makes it trivial to contribute and it's pretty nice

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I found that one very cluttered/unintuitive and not at all beginnerfriendly. I resorted to StreetComplete, not quite the same but gives the same feeling while mapping the details from my surroundings. Its soo satisfying!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Organic Maps is a good app that also lets you do some editing. I like the interface better than osmand

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

I'm also a fan of organic perfect for hiking and for bikes

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