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Of course he does. We are not allowed to talk about killing.
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They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.
By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars
What's that? Did I hear somebody say Beelzebub's Advanced Rifle Academy?
The people who claim that America is a "Christian" nation don't ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.
And Thomas Jefferson went out of his way to emphasis the separation of church and state.
I'm starting to feel that Donald Trump might not entirely live up to the bar set by Thomas Jefferson.
I wonder what murica will be called in a few years when it ceases to exist?
You mean North Mexico?
Maybe after religion has been abolished.
It's fascinating how the new world now desires to be just like the old.
Well okay, trump is an adulterer and we have clear instructions about what we need to do about that.
Community stoning......I'm down
Maybe HE should worry about the separation of his head from his body.
What happens when you're the wrong version of Christianity? That's a paddlin..
Country with a second amendment refuses to use it.
Country with a second amendment refuses to use it.
Donald Trump has a First Amendment-protected right to say this. It may be irresponsible or outrageous, but the First Amendment protects irresponsible and outrageous speech.
On the outrageous-things-Donald-Trump-has-done list, this is probably one of the more-clearly-legal things that I can think of.
You first. Unless there's some reason you're keen for others to risk their lives but not your own.
Plenty of reasons to ask others to risk their lives without being willing to risk your own.
At the most basic level, that's how specializations work: do you whip out your own drill when your tooth hurts? Or do you ask someone with the means and expertise to get the job done to do it for you?
If you're a US tax payer, then you're actively paying a shit ton of people to risk their lives on your behalf. All of those people swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all threats foreign and domestic - they are literally oath bound to engage Donald Trump the same way they do any other enemy of the US. Why shouldn't we ask those people to do their fucking job?
The 2nd Amendment is a last-ditch effort kind of thing, but the longer we get nothing but crickets from the previous paragraph the more relevant it becomes. Fortunately (in this very specific context at least) the US is stuffed with absolute enthusiasts for the 2nd Amendment - why condemn someone for asking one of those people to act on their passion? These fuckers' wet dream is to swoop in with their trusty ol' boom stick and make themselves a national hero by slaying a home-grown tyrant. So go on, Cletus: make us proud ya wraskly ol' cowboy!
In any case, we have a fuck ton of people either obligated or enthused to be the one to single-handedly step up and solve the Trump problem. As someone who's neither obligated nor enthused, I don't see any issue with calling on either of those two crowds to put their money where their mouth is, knowing full well that I'm not personally willing to risk my own life or freedom.
I wasn't talking about asking others to risk their lives without risking your own though, I specifically said 'especially keen', as in eager to sacrifice others for their own enjoyment (or whatever.)
As a way of calling out the hypocrisy of the people who claim to be all gung-ho to stamp out tyranny from behind the barrel of a gun I have no issue with it, but 'why aren't you sacrificing yourself to satisfy my vicarious moral outrage' is a bit fucking rich coming from someone who isn't also lining up to do the same thing. One might even call that a kind of hypocrisy too.
You might be shocked to learn that other countries exist and that the internet works in those countries and that your joke of a fucking constitution doesn't apply there.
Hint: I live in such a country.
And you might likewise be shocked to learn that non-Americans don't have a lock on the understanding of how maps work, or that the idea of hurling yourself pointlessly at a professional army/police force is just as unappealing here as it is in any of those countries. It's easy to say 'Someone should do something' when you're not the one who is going to be at risk in the doing, isn't it? But I'm sure wherever you're from is perfect, and even if it's not there's no reason to worry because others will no doubt be lining up to sacrifice themselves to satisfy your vicarious moral outrage so that you don't have to get your own hands dirty.
Donny, you’re out of your element.
Christian here.
Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
Your religion is rotten. I judge it by its fruit.
That's not helpful right now.
Calling out Christians on their bullshit support of a fascist criminal that completely disrespects all of the values of their religion isn't helpful?
Christ, if he was at all like his stories, was a pretty cool guy.
Shame Christianity co-opted his name.
Yeah, that's why I said the religion is rotten. If I say an apple is rotten, people don't usually respond by saying "Yeah but it came from a cool tree".
The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a "Christian" state.
This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there's no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.
I cannot respect any "Christian" that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.