Macdonalds is utter shite. There's just no other way to say this.
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Good. Fuck ‘em for the sake of GP, and fuck ‘em for hosting TFI. Get fucked.
I wish there was more domestic anti-McDonald’s sentiment.
That shit is nasty.
McDonald's forgot their place as a cheap fast food burger. It's almost as expensive as places like Five Guys now, and nowhere near the same level of either flavor or sheer quantity.
It used to be that their app promos made up the difference but now it's the same like 4 so coupons for specific items and a generic 15% off that really only covers taxes, not the 50%+ increase in prices in the last 2 years. It's just not worth it anymore.
Even ignoring the international portion, I wouldn't be surprised if Americans started to notice as well.
"If you're not making a 33% profit, what are you doing it for?" - a quote from the Netherland's McDonald's chain owner. He also owns a bright red farari when visiting the drive through. He is a massive leech. Glad to not be working there anymore. The food quality is crap and overpriced.
You're way better off eating Taco Mundo. Much better ingredients for the same prices. Even a frozen pizza from ristorante is way better than what Mac has to offer. Or Burger Me who actually rewards loyal customers with free burger coupons rather than McD's sales app. I genuinely do not understand why people still go there. You can make your own burger with better quality and price at home...
Yeah, for reference, here are all of the deals currently available for me in the McD's app...
- $2 Breakfast sandwich (and they no longer have 24 hours breakfast).
- Free medium fries with a $3 purchase.
- Buy One Happy Meal get one for $2
- 20% off a $15+ purchase
And that's it. Meanwhile...
A Quarter Pounder with Cheese or Big Mac is $7.29, for the sandwich alone. The meals are $13.39 and $13.19 respectively. Why is there a difference? The sandwiches cost the same independently and the fries and drink are the same for the meal.
Or let's get into the grift now... they're ripping you off with some of the meals. A regular basic Cheeseburger is $2.69, and the meal is $10.39. so they're saying the "discounted" meal bundle price to add a regular drink and fries is $7.70. So they're saying the fries and a soda are worth nearly 3x as much as the cheeseburger, which is already ridiculous. But let's ignore that and look at the cost closer... a regular medium fries is $4.99 and a regular medium soda is $1.39 which comes to $6.38... so they're actually ripping you off for an additional $1.32 if you get the meal versus the items separately. So you're paying an additional 10% by getting the meal... Isn't that what the discount should be?
Might it have something to do with McDonald’s used to be cheap now it’s over $10 for a burger, fries, and drink for just me. If I get a meal for my family it’s well over $40. That’s just too much for cheap fast food.
The burger giant reported U.S. same-store sales fell 3.6%, the largest three-month drop since Q2 2020, when they plunged 8.7%.
Pump that shit up, y'all! Don't forget McDonald's hosted the domestic enemy to the United States Constitution, Donald Trump, for two separate PR stunts. They are complicit in his treason. They don't deserve another cent of your money - there are tons of other options to get your greasy salt fix.
When they let him "work" there and didn't chastise the franchisee for politicizing their brand, I was 100% done. They were my favorite go-to fast food for over 30 years. I'll never eat there again.
This pleases me.
I hope all of these price-gouging motherfuckers see their worst sales declines since 2020. Bastards.
America side, few working class can afford buying premade food. Preparing food at home, cooking, saves money. High odds this is working in conjunction with the buy European campaign.
Me who hasn't eaten any McDonalds for decades purely because it's unhealthy.
Yeah, doing my part and all that...
I've not done it cause it's bad food for shit prices. It has been a mystery, why they have been in buissnes the last 15 years.
I haven’t bought McDonald’s since Trump won, but I still see lineups around them.
I wouldn’t buy Maccas even if they were plant-based.
"anti American". Nah, it's overpriced shit, that's all. Love from Australia.
Yeah, I can get an actual pub burger for 3-5 more than a quarter pounder... and I don't hate myself after it? Why should I go to McDonald's?
Without the sauce the patty just tastes like cardboard. ( Urm, not that I eat cardboard often. )
I've been asking myself the same question lately. If Maccas is nearly the same price as an actually good burger, why not just get the good burger?
Exactly this. It was "fast food" where you didn't expect greatness because it was cheap. Now it's not at all cheap and crap anyway.
Yeah it was always cheap, fast, good... pick 2 (sometimes) now it's fast or good, pick 1 (maybe).
Fuck you McDonalds. For so many reasons. Letting the fucking monster play employee on his way to destroy this country was just icing on the cake.
I mean, I'm an American. I have a pro-American sentiment when it comes to food and drink.
I also happen to have an anti-overpriced-crap sentiment when it comes to the things I eat and drink.
In my area, a Quarter Pounder with Cheese is $10.50. Now, I may not compare exact apples-to-apples here, but let's go for it.
From my local supermarket, I can get 20 1/4lb. patties for $25 - that's the premade patties, not from the butcher section. That means not only can I decide how well-done I like my burger, I can season it as I choose. And I have confidence in my local supermarket that when they put on the side of the box "Ingredients:80% Lean, 20% Fat Ground Beef", they mean it. That makes each patty $1.25.
Now, if I want to buy the exact same ground beef, but not formed in patties, that's $3.25/lb (usually in 2-3 lb. packs, but I can ask the butcher and get a custom size) - so now we're down to $0.81 for the patty.
The rolls, I can get store brand. 8 for $1.50. That's $0.19 cents a roll. That means that if I buy my own ground beef, I've now spent exactly $1 on a quarter pound burger. So let's talk toppings.
The cheese first - one slice of American on theirs; I would go a different way, but stick to them. Springing for a little extra, $3.59 a pack for Borden Melts cheese, 16 slices. $0.22 per slice. Our burger is now at $1.22 COGS, and I have the makings for 7 more in buns and probably that in beef, plus I could make each burger with 2 slices of cheese, so each burger is $1.44 so far.
Onions, I can get for $1.50/lb (or less!), and each onion is less than that. But I definitely have enough to do a burger and meal plan - let's say an ounce, about $0.10. Mustard, I'm not going to factor in the cost, because it's so little as to be a joke. Buying a jar of good mustard can last you a year or more. Ketchup I'll say the same for. It can last a long time and the amount per burger is negligible. So let's be generous and say $0.10 each. Pickles can be more expensive if you get good ones, but store brand we're talking $0.16 per ounce (with brine), and you're not putting on a full ounce of pickle. So in toppings, we're adding ~$0.50 value.
Total cost of the burger is around $2.00 at retail, not at scale; about $3 if you want premade patties. Sure, there are costs to be amortized like rent and tax and cooking - and the biggest cost, labor. But each individual burger shouldn't be socked with an 80+% markup from COGS, and taste worse than the home-made version.
Why should I buy from McDonald's ever again?
If it costs $2 and you sell it for $10, isn't that a 500% markup?
You're right. My markup % was off. I'm glad I have a computer calculating it at work.
Ok like I agree with 99% of what you said and prefer not to eat McDonald’s as well. Overpriced and poor quality. But labor is the kicker. The time you spent going to the store, are you eating the burgers daily if not your buns and onions will go bad pretty quick so you’re heading to the store multiple times to use that meat (if cooking one burger a time) plus time to cook. Like McDonald’s sucks for sure but where do you draw the line at what 10 dollars of your time is worth? Like this fictional one burger at a time universe sounds exhausting to me.
Obviously at scale this doesn’t matter. I don’t just buy burgers to eat one burger a day I get a load of groceries for a week at a time. Some meals are easier to make than others. Etc. I just felt the way you write your post was like time is free. It’s like the opposite of free.
I agree. But I think I sort of mentioned, what I found was that through serendipity, it works out to the packages being pretty accurate to 8 .25lb burgers, aside from the onion, mustard, ketchup, and pickles.
I would make a family meal out of that - in fact, I think I might this weekend. You're right, time isn't free. But I'm not going to pay more than double the retail COGS for a sandwich that's produced on commercial scale and not cooked by hand. If that's what they need to do in order to keep the lights on, then they need to cut overhead or negotiate more effectively to reduce COGS. But we all know that these are not 'keep the lights on' prices. They could cut the price and still make a profit.
If it was a locally owned small business where I believed that my support would be valued, or where they were reinvesting into the local community, I think I'd accept it. Heck, I do accept it. One of my local places serves a $13 burger. I buy it, because I know where they get their beef, and their veggies, and the staff and owners are in my area. Everything but the tax comes back into my local economy. That's not how McD's works.
Why should I buy from McDonald's ever again?
Minecraft Happy Meal toys!
I haven't been to McDs in ages, but holy fuck is a burger actually over $10?
Yup, and that's just a burger. Mind you, I live in spitting distance of NYC, so I do admittedly have a cost that's inflated due to high taxes and high minimum wage. But all my other costs were based on my local supermarket that's within walking distance of the McD's I used for price reference. If I'd used the Walmart that's in the same lot, it'd be even more extreme.
I just checked the prices from my local McD on deliveroo it is bad but not that bad, think they are also a little bit cheaper when ordering directly inside but not 100% sure haven’t been there myself in ages
Oh no, did the shitty mega corporation suffer consequences for its role in contributing to destabilizing a government to save 2% on its taxes? Pobrecito!
McFascism
If you can’t sell sugarburgers in America, what can you sell?
Maybe McDonald’s can introduce a payment plan system. It’s already how Americans afford groceries.
Their food is so bad except the fries
Good. Keep it up!
As an American, if i could buy not American right now, I would. Fuck this government.
Sometimes I can. When I have the option to get a European product from one of our local grocery stores — and there are some! I much prefer the imports. I feel like they’re safer these days.
Change your tax withholding this year. Just put the extra money in a Canadian bond and wait for them to raise a stink
nwtrcc.org !
Whatever the version of an RRSP is in the states, usually you can change your investment strategy in it even if it doesn't hold individual securities. Most would have an international investments strategy that keeps your money out of the USA.
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As another American rock the fuck on Canadians. I’ve been trying to buy more to help even out that trade balance but my state already does 3:1 imports but gotta pump those numbers up.
Also you got any Canadian crack maple syrup recommendations perchance. Cause I’m getting low and need my pancake fix, maple butter too cause if I’m going for a heart attack I go for gold.
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