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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago

It was always black and blue, but I've always found it fun to switch back and forth between which color combination it was. It was also a fun phenomena, but I don't like that it was ten years+ ago now. Time moves a bit too fast.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, what happened is that a bunch of people were shown to be objectively wrong about what color it was, and couldn't let it go.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I can't remember the pairs of colors that are supposed to be. Were blue/black and golden/white?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This didn’t “reveal differences in human perception”. Those differences were well known already. What was lacking - and still is, as far as I know - is a good model of human colour perception.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can sort of change it. Probably just my TN monitor though.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is why "eye witness testimony" can never be trusted. People with fucked up physiology just tumbling through life and not even realizing that their color wheel is off by magnitudes, and that cilantro is delicious.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (12 children)

It appears white/gold to me on it's own, I've never been able to see anything different.

Grabbing this specific image and sampling the colours though; they appear more of a grey/brown colour. I can sorta maybe understand blue, but definitely not black.

This is just using Polish photo editor on android:

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The point has never been about the actual pixel color codes. It's about how human perception doesn't follow those objective metrics.

Distilled down, we perceive color and brightness in comparison to the surrounding scene. The checker shadow illusion is a clear example of the same color looking different.

So the color perception on the dress depends on how the brain decides to color correct the white balance of the scene.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (26 children)

This is exactly the thing.

Whatever the dress may be in reality, the photo of it that was circulated was either exposed or twiddled with such that the pixels it's made of are indeed slightly bluish grey trending towards white (i.e. above 50% grey) and tanish browny gold.

That is absolutely not up for debate. Those are the color values of those pixels, end of discussion.

Edit to add: This entire debacle is a fascinating case of people either failing to or refusing to separate the concept of a physical object versus its very inaccurate representation. The photograph of the object is not the object: ce n'est pas une robe.

The people going around in this thread and elsewhere putting people down and calling them "stupid" or whatever else only because they know that the physical dress itself is black and blue based on external information are studiously ignoring the fact that this is not what the photograph of it shows. That's because the photograph is extremely cooked and is not an accurate depiction. The debate only exists at all if one party or the other does not have the complete set of information, and at this point in history now that this stupid meme has been driven into the ground quite thoroughly I should hope that all of us do.

It's true that our brains can and will interpret false color data based on either context or surrounding contrast, and it's possible that somebody deliberately messed with the original image to amplify this effect in the first place. But the fact remains that arguing about what the dress is versus how it's been inaccurately depicted is stupid, and anyone still trying that at this late stage is probably doing so in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

The "white" pixels are literally blue. The "black" ones can be considered gold due to the lighting.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not an American photo editor?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A) I'm not American

And

B) America can go fuck itself until it sorts out it's Nazi problem. I still think Canada should enact a full trade embargo and take our business elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean... it was a dumb joke on Polish and Polish being homographs, but okay.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Woops

I missed that; bit of a sensitive topic atm...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why are people downvoting someone for admitting they made a mistake? It takes some courage to do that.

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