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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago

Sounds like something a terrorist would say.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

The sane way of dealing with it is to use UTC everywhere internally and push local time and local formatting up to the user facing bits. And if you move time around as a string (e.g. JSON) then use ISO 8601 since most languages have time / cron APIs that can process it. Often doesn't happen that way though...

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 weeks ago

I’m not a computer and this isn’t work so I’m gonna just use my confusing date format.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

Stupid smarch 2nd

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You know, I used to think ISO 8601 was just a boring technical standard for writing dates. But now I see it’s clearly the first step in a grand master plan! First, they make us write the year first, then the month, then the day-suddenly, our beloved 17.05.2025 turns into 2025-05-17. My birthday now looks like a WiFi password, and my calendar feels like a math equation.

But it doesn’t stop there. Today it’s the date format, tomorrow we’ll all be reading from right to left, and before you know it, our keyboards will be rearranged so QWERTY is replaced with mysterious squiggles and dots. Imagine the panic:

“First they came for our dates, then they came for our keyboards!”

At this rate, I’ll be drinking mint tea instead of coffee, my local kebab shop will start offering lutefisk shawarma, and Siri will only answer to “Inshallah.” The right-wing tabloids will have a field day:

“Western Civilization in Peril: Our Months and Days Held Hostage!”

But let’s be honest-if the worst thing that happens is we finally all agree on how to write today’s date, maybe world peace isn’t so far off. Until then, I’ll be over here, clutching my calendar and practicing my right-to-left reading skills… just in case.

(Don’t worry,this was just a joke! No offense intended-unless you’re a die-hard fan of confusing date formats, in which case, may the ISO be ever in your favor!)

Peace!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Where I live, "DD. MM. YYYY" is the standard but some old tombstones use

first two digits of year, then a "proper" (horizontal-bar) fraction of DD/MM, then second two digits of year

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know why one would ever do that? 20(02/05)25 feels like the "Don't Dead Open Inside" of dates.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I propose that we amend the ISO to require the days of the week be named after their etymological roots in that language.

English Days of the Week:
Day of the Sun
Day of the Moon
Day of Týr
Day of Odin
Day of Thor
Day of Frēa
Day of Saturn

Imagine dating a meeting, "Day of Odin, May 7, 2025." Imagine a store receipt that says, "Day of Thor, June 5, 2025." Imagine telling a friend, "July 4th falls on a Day of Frēa this year!"

THIS IS WHAT WE COULD HAVE. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE LOST. THIS IS WHAT WAS STOLEN FROM US.

We could bring it back. We could make this the norm. We could make this real. We could summon this bit of ancient magic back into our world. Let's remember what we actually named these days for! BRING BACK THE DAY OF THOR!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

I work at a global company an in my team there are people from 5 continents. we use 27-Feb-23. It's the only way nobody gets confused and it's only 1 char more. (Tbf nobody would be confused only my boss that is american lol)

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Is that February 27th 2023 or February 23rd 2027?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Are you planning stuff 2 years ahead already?

I would still be confused by this..

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

ISO 8601 allows all kinds of crazy time stamps. RFC 3339 is much nicer and simpler, and the sweet spot is at the intersection of ISO 8601 and RFC 3339.

Then again, ISO 8601 contains some nice things that RFC 3339 does not, like ranges and durations, recurrences...

https://ijmacd.github.io/rfc3339-iso8601/

[–] [email protected] -4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Feb 27th 2013

Boom. Everything is in a different format so you can order it however you want and it's still readable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Why use abbreviations in your preferred language when you can have a solution that is language-agnostic and universal (for a given calendar) ?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Because if there's one problem simple enough that I trust an LLM or translation app not to fuck up, it's simple translation of month labels from on language to another. If you're writing in English, it's reasonable to have month abbreviations in English. If someone wants to read it in a different language, they're going to have to use translation software or hire a human translator to do it. And regardless of translation method, simple date translation will be among the most reliable and faithfully translated parts.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

...nah man, 27 february 2013 (or 2013 february 27 if you want to append 24.00 time) leave no room for ambiguity...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

No hablo inglés y no sé cuál es "february". How about that? Only Arabic numbes survive internationally.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I feel like YYYYMMDD (without dashes) might be a format in ISO 8601, but I'm fully expecting to be corrected soon. But I didn't say think, I said feel. YYYYMMDD has a similar vibe to YYYY-MM-DD, ya feel me?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

It is. Photos and code merges use it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Nope, you are correct! From the Wikipedia page, which cites the standards document:

  • Representations can be done in one of two formats – a basic format with a minimal number of separators or an extended formatwith separators added to enhance human readability. The standard notes that "The basic format should be avoided in plain text." The separator used between date values (year, month, week, and day) is the hyphen, while the colon is used as the separator between time values (hours, minutes, and seconds). For example, the 6th day of the 1st month of the year 2009 may be written as "2009-01-06" in the extended format or as "20090106" in the basic format without ambiguity.
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

So xkcd got a detail wrong? I'm cancelling my subscription!

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