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I go to a programming school, where there were computers running ancient windows 8 and some were on windows 10, they ran really slow and were completely unrelaible when doing the tasks that are required, those computers in question had either i5-4750 (I think?) or i7-4970 so running windows 10 with all its bloat was not going to be an easy task for em, so long story short I decided to talk to the principal about it explaining why linux is so much better than windows and gave him reasons why linux will be better for us for education and he agreed after considering it for a bit, he let me know that some students play roblox or minecraft in middle of the lesson and he asks if linux would stop em from doing that, I stated that as long as they dont know how to work with wine/lutris or know any specific linux packages that run windows games on linux they should not be able to play in the middle of lessons. he gave me the green light to do it, so I spent like 3 days migrating like 20+ computers to linux (since I had to set them up and install some required applications for them) in the last day where I was doing a last check up on the PCs to make sure they are in working order, there was a computer having a problem of which where it didnt boot, I let the principal know about this to get permission to work on it, he said yes, so after some troubleshooting I realized the boot order was all screwed, so since Ive worked with arch before I knew how to fix it, I booted up linux mint live image, chrooted, and fixed the boot order and computer went back to life, prinicipal came in checked on everything to make sure everything works, told me to wait for a bit, and then came back and paid me for his troubles (was a bit of a surprised since I expected nothing of the sort), the next day I came to school, sat down, turned PC on, noticed something was in the trash bin, opened it, found "robloxinstall.exe" on it, told the principal about it, he was pleased with it, so now 2 weeks later he seems now to be confident about linux, as he told me there is another class he is considering to move to linux.

so my question here would be: does this mean linux now is ready for the education sector?

(considering now, that I got a win win situation, I get to use an OS that I like in school, students gets to focus on the lessons instead of slacking.)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't teach the kids about flatpak. Then they will soon discover Roblox/sober.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Does your school have an it department? If not maybe that can be a job for you. Someone will need to maintain that fleet.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Beats me. maybe they do, maybe they don't? I honestly have no clue, perhaps I should ask.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

There is way to do this that works with even older computers and is easy to manage.

That’s with Edubuntu and thin-client computing using the Linux Terminal Server project, LTSP.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Chapter_5_-_Thin-Client_Computing

In that model, you install Linux once on a server. Each computer in the lab is set to boot over the network from the server.

This way there is one computer to maintain, the users can’t access root and all the storage is centralized.

Even old computers with low CPU and RAM and no hard drive can make good thin clients.

A number of schools have been using this approach for 15+ years.

https://www.edubuntu.org/

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didnt know this actually! thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 128 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

you're lucky to have an open-minded principle

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 weeks ago

true, normally people would be too afraid

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

This is a great story, and you should be really proud of yourself! Good job :). I used Linux through college and had very few issues (that I can remember!)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

thanks, mind telling me what were those issues? I'm kinda curious, perhaps I should have a mental note for those if they are related to what I just did

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been too long, but seems like I had some problems with formatting getting wrecked between Word and LibreOffice. It probably works a lot better now, not to mention that you can just access Word in the browser if really necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

This is great for a handful of devices but I deploy and administrate hundreds of devices at my school. As much as I would love to, there's no way I could sell this without a really robust way of managing device policies & software deployment. I understand RHEL has something like that but that it isn't quite up to the same standard as the Microsoft admin ecosystem just yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

You should take a look at Ansible, it's the same problem as infra teams in tech companies to manage Linux deployment and it's a mostly solved problem

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

ah fair enough, hopefully one day, there is an easy way for linux to do what your school are looking for!

for my school they teach programming as such python webdev etc, so getting linux primed up for that was rather simple, I'm surprised, they haven't did this before I suggested it!

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Linux has been ready for education for a long time! Most of the public high school machines I interacted with in the mid 2000s were linux based. There was a dedicated Mac lab for creative work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

oh I see, good to know!

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

lol I thought this was a guerrilla IT warfare post where you snuck in and did it, but you actually did it with permission.... 😂

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 weeks ago

yeah, I don't want trouble xD

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Them paying you is so nice! I remember installing Ubuntu in some computer in high school before I even used Linux myself lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 weeks ago

ikr, didn't expect that, perhaps they saw me spending so much time on that so they felt bad or smth

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool story bro.

Except the story is actually cool, and you're a real bro!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

thanks man, you're a real bro too!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (4 children)

You have turned Roblox/Minecraft loving little kids into a lifelong Linux haters. 🤣

I applaud you.

PS: So how are the computers performing now?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Minecraft runs natively on Linux, so it won't take them long to figure that out.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 weeks ago

well, the ones that do figure it out, they earned their game session, that would lowkey force them to learn linux, which is good tbh

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

Exceptionally well actually!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago

Just install Luanti and that will take care of the Minecraft group.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I had dual booted Ubuntu with Windows when I was in college, without having any prior exposure to Linux or any skill in coding or even scripting. The install itself was incredibly easy and I was wondering why more kids don't do it. All the core functions that a computer was supposed to, Ubuntu was doing it better than Windows save one - running windows specific software.

I guess Linux was good enough for education back then itself, but it ddn't run fancy games and I could not convince anyone else to dual boot their PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

ah fair enough

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

I don’t know how developed your school system is but, I would advise the principal into blocking the websites via DNS that way the computers won’t resolve them.

AdGuard, PiHole, OpenSense are free open source DNS resolvers however, chances are your school already manages its own DNS so I would obviously consult with them first.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

Idk tbh, but the principal seems experienced I think, he might figure it out

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Is linux ready for the education sector? Kinda depends on the tools involved.

If its a google classroom kind of workflow and or everything is done in the browser, absolutely. Theres a reason Chromebooks got popular for schools, not just cause they're cheap, but being more locked down and basically only useful for in browser work made them a good alternative to Windows machines.

However, some stuff specific to certain courses or classes may not be compatible with linux. Something like a photo editing college course that requires adobe (ew) would be an example.

I'd personally love to see Linux in the education sector more. With immutable distros, no licensing costs, and lower hardware requirements, Linux is likely going to be really attractive to schools that are looking for alternatives.

So sick that you were able to do this. Kudos for taking the initiative and making your community better.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

the boot order was all screwed, so since Ive worked with arch before I knew how to fix it, I booted up linux mint live image, chrooted, and fixed the boot order and computer went back to life

Can't you just change this in the BIOS?

does this mean linux now is ready for the education sector?

Linux has always been suitable (and I would argue ideal) in the education sector. But the reality is that almost no one is going to use Linux in a professional environment so there's an argument to be made that they should be using and learning Winblows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

I tried but, grub itself was malfunctioning, so I fixed it with chroot and a live mint iso

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Beautiful work .... I wish my school had done that when I was a kid.

The great thing about it is that now you are helping to generate a new crop of kids who will learn how to use Linux. Sure, they will try to do stupid things on it like install games or figure out how to bypass things or install or uninstall ... the great thing about that is that they will learn how to use the system in order to try to break it. It's the same way I learned how to use Linux and probably the same way you learned how to use it.

You've advanced the computer department for those kids more than you know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

This reminds me of when I was a kid. My school computer were running slow as heck windows xps or windows 7s, mostly slow because the bloat of education software that was installed to block visiting certain websites, lock down computers during certain hours or when the teacher is lecturing, etc. Even in my high school.

One day for my computer class during a lecture, I plugged in my liveboot USB running Mint, hushed my classmates next to me and rebooted. I didn't expect the computer to make a loud as hell beep sound when it got to the bootloader, but I was sitting in a side row so the teacher just said "what was that?" and moved on while others looked at me suspiciously. But then I was able to boot up Linux right there, super easy. And everything works, I was able to browse the web without any restrictions, well I'm not really trying to look at bad stuff but just hate being locked down when I can do something else instead. Or maybe I just wanted to show off Linux. Anyways my classmates next to me silently whispered "what the heck how did you do this??" I look back at this as a fond memory.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

true tbh, I do wish linux takes on MacOS in marketshare and beat it at least (I know beating windows atm is a pipe dream, but MacOS seems realistic atm)

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