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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just to put a downer on things, looking at the final results I do worry that Canada may have won the battle but lost the war.

The situation in the US came about because an entrenched two-party system drowns out most viewpoints, and is what allowed Trump to seize control of a party of politicians who almost universally spoke out against him ten years ago. It's also responsible for the Democrats' constant and unrelenting shift towards the Right, enabled by the knowledge that most left-leaning voters are still too cowardly to vote third party.

And what did we see this election? All the smaller party seats drifting to the big two "to stop the wrong guy getting in".

Be very very careful not to continue down this slope. It does not end with the bad guys staying defeated once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Trudeau made several major mistakes including appointing a journalist to be finance minister. He overstayed his welcome since 2021 and conspiracy theorists made hay with the idea that he was never going to step down, that there would never be an election, or that he would somehow make himself a dictator. None of these things happened, but the brainwashed now think that Trudeau is controlling Mark Carney with fluoride, chemtrails and a 5G cell phone. Or maybe its been the other way the whole time!!! So stupid, but that doesn't explain the high number of Canadians that voted for Polievre.

Trudeau isn't the king of the Liberal party, but for a while he was running it as though he was. Reality sunk in, he finally stepped down, but many people want to punish the Liberals and it's understandable. Assuming this government lasts 2-4 years, Trudeau will be ancient history.

Carney is not Trudeau, and if his ideas work, then he'll bring people around. The NDP will find a new leader, they have firm roots and will regain their footing.

The CPC will hopefully realize the reason it has Multiple Personality Disorder is because it is a group of people with conflicting values and ideals.that agreed to bind themselves together to defeat the Liberal party in our first past the post system. Strapping the fanatical right wing fringe of the country to the PC party has failed to win over and over. Its time to give up, perhaps this latest loss will finally tear apart their unnatural abomination.

And if I were to dream a little dream, we'd have proportional representation and never have another majority government ever again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

enabled by the knowledge that most left-leaning voters are still too cowardly to vote third party.

My dude, Trump won exactly because the far left refused to vote democrat over gaza

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

There should be a word for when someone thinks they're countering a point, when in fact they're just acting as a demonstration of it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's still a liberal minority (something cannot occur in a two party system). Our saving grace is our Francophone province that takes British America and mixes in diversity and culture. Politically, this means the bloq that are keeping us from either a Conservative or liberal majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

our Francophone province that takes British America and mixes in diversity and culture

Are you talking about the racist xenophobic province who abuse the notwithstanding clause to violate human rights?

The Quebec who bans freedom of speech, books and discriminates against religion?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/fatemeh-anvari-removed-from-grade-three-classroom-1.6278381

https://legaljournal.princeton.edu/bill-96-a-violation-of-english-speaking-rights-in-quebec/

Are those the bastions of diversity and culture you're talking about?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

First, the bad guys will never be defeated once and for all. This isn't a game or a story, it's real life with new bad guys trying to gain power in different ways all the time. Second, there is little that voting is going to do in a FPTP country that isn't supported by one of the two key players, and Canada doesn't have a method in place for citizens to propose a referendum that isn't also supported by the party in power. Further to that, the only real options for electoral reform is for the whole country to become aware enough that the parties in power feel they have no choice or to be leaders towards progress and push for it themselves, knowing it will reduce their maximum power pretty much forever after.

This battle is for a whole different war, and only tangentially may have an impact on electoral reform.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If conservatives don't figure out that he is 100% of the reason they lost, they're 'effin stupid and blind.

It's plainly obvious what the problem is when your party gains seats, but your leader loses his because the only person people hate more than him, resigned. (Trudeau)

When the public is sooo eager for any reason to no longer vote for you that you lose a super majority the moment the first opportunity presented itself, you are the problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

they lost cause they are comprehensively jackasses who suck and everybody hates them EVEN MORE than they hate the soggy liberals. they have the leader they elected, and whom they deserve.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, what happened? I mean, apart from losing his seat? No one else would give up theirs or he got kicked out?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are ongoing discussions with other MPs to see if one will give up their seat.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hopefully the answer is no.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Especially with how he whipped his mps into line. No one should sacrifice their political aspirations for someone like him.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If he doesn't get a yes that'll tell you just how much his fellow Con politicians hate him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Probably less hate him than realising how much of a liability he is....

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

They need to update “constituency” to “none”.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Small pp is anything but honourable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you bracket it with a tilde to either side you get the proper spelling of Smöl ~pp~!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I would love to listen to the desperate phone calls Poilievre's team is making to newly-elected Conservative MPs asking them to resign so that he can take their seat.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He still needs to win a by election to make it official if they do that, right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Yes. After his humiliating defeat, I'm guessing he'll play it safe and pick a riding in Alberta which is also where he was born.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I find that idea fascinating, because I don't think Harper is going to ley him stick around.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

The real leader of the conservatives.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago

After having to watch this knob in the house for decades, this made my whole year.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Parliamentary civility has increased by 60%

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait, he only submitted 7 bills, most of which were trolling, and only one passed?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Helluva legacy after 30 years in office...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Attack dogs aren't known for their intelligence. /s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Daddy Harper doesn’t keep loose ends