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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/372863

cross-posted from: https://metawire.eu/post/61363

The right-wing billionaire’s platform has recently lost about 10 percent of its European user base.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

As an American I think I have a good way for the fediverse to gain momentum as people flee fascist US tech companies.

achem….

“Europe! Canada! Fucking HELP! We broke everything again!”

Seriously though, while government-run and “official” instances may not be a fit for many of us here, it could make huge strides with mainstream users. Maybe getting a large percentage of people invite onboard in a small country or two could be the seed that gets it to spread.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Biggest problem with twitter/X is so many companies mess you around until you call them out on it, then things tend to get resolved how they should have been.

I truthfully have always seen that as Twitter/X's only use

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It was the same on the municipal level for me. I can call 311 or write to them, but it was kind of nice to be able to tweet at my neighbourhood and have people interacting with them and me on local issues.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 15 hours ago

Fedi is doing fine whether or not Nazi platforms crumble.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I hate X but I also dislike echo chambers

[–] [email protected] 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I also hate when people think an echo chamber is something inherently bad. Everything is an echo chamber. Your family, your friends, your local gaming community, your workplace. An echo chamber only becomes a problem when bad actors take control.

Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, or even Google. They give a shit about your wellbeing, as long as they profit.

Echo chambers are okay, no even necessary to stay mentally sane, as long as people share their honest takes without large scale agendas and manipulation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, or even Google. They give a shit about your wellbeing, as long as they profit.

That's delusional. The try to cater to what will keep you engaged, so that as much of the data you can generate can be milked. That's like saying that agrobusiness cares about livestock's wellbeing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Echo chambers are okay, no even necessary to stay mentally sane, as long as people share their honest takes without large scale agendas and manipulation.

You're using a different definition of "echo chamber" than I've ever heard of. What you're describing is groups of people sharing opinions that can differ with one another in good faith discussion. If differing views are being introduced its, by definition, not an echo chamber.

An echo chamber is when only one set of opinions are voiced, and all responses are in support of that opinion, hence the "echo" portion of the term.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What you're describing is groups of people sharing opinions that can differ with one another in good faith discussion.

The problem is, this is what fashies consider an “echo chamber”. The definition itself is not applied in good faith by certain cohorts. For example, people having good-faith debates are “liberal” echo chambers, because not toeing the alt-right fascist line is never considered to be good faith.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

The problem is, this is what fashies consider an “echo chamber”. The definition itself is not applied in good faith by certain cohorts.

Fashies also have vastly different perverted definitions for all kinds of things like "freedom" and "peace", but I'm not adopting their definitions of those either. I'm not sure where you're going with this unless you're saying @[email protected] is a fascist, but I don't think you are saying that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If we are throwing around big words, we have to be precise though.

Echo chambers always existed and we are in them all the time. A few hundreds or thousands years ago, we lived in small groups. Those definitely had different opinions, but overall had the same values. Those were echo chambers. Now, where those bad? No, you want people to be in line on foundational topics.

But if you start to manipulate these opinions on the ground level, you're going to divide people.

Global warming? Is it really that bad? Migrants? Aren't the stealing our jobs? LGBTQ+? Aren't they just harassing our kids and women? Hitler? Was he really that bad?????

Do you get what I mean? Echo chambers aren't the problem. They always existed. It's bad influence that turns everything to shit.

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