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As suggested at this thread to general "yeah sounds cool". Let's see if this goes anywhere.

Original inspiration:

The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to make it a post, there's no quota here

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

did you guys know robert zubrin was an old time larouchite activist back in the 70s?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i didn't but this didn't surprise me in any way. Zubrin certainly has stuff going on

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

There were pre-musk cult allegations thats for sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This dude literally asks a chick how she would feel if she hadn't had breakfast today. Here's the biggest self-own I've ever seen presented without further comment

https://twitter.com/whatever/status/1768427024664707499

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is this supposed to be an own of the woman? I am so confused.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

The whole point of the show is the humiliation of the women.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you familiar with the 4chan iq "study"? He's trying to do an impromptu iq test on this woman.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Thankfully, I am not. I have lived well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Spoiler warning, but these are the people you're getting into slapfights with on twitter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Spoiler warning but Darth Vader is Luke's father.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (5 children)

From a couple weeks ago:

I'm doing a reading of good fan-fiction at a con this weekend, to counter the many "bad fanfic reading" panels. I want to read an interesting passage from HPMoR

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

convincing you that something that seems evil is the right thing to do

y tho

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

these passages have not improved with time

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

@blakestacey

I wonder how many people attended and how many laughed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Well, I suppose a con where HP readings aren't considered gauche these days is... no, still not a con where HPMOR is considered good writing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

this is almost definitely how bible reading groups displaced much more interesting activities like drinking a fuckton of mead and reading poetry

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Good to see the Yud tradition of ridiculous strawmanning of science continue.

In this case, the strawscientist falls for a ponzi scheme because "it always outputted the same returns". So scientific!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Ponzi Schemer: "Ignore all these elaborate, abstract, theoretical predictions. Empirically, everyone who's invested in Bernie Bankman has received back 144% of what they invested two years later."

LessWronger: "Your object-level error is that you have committed the trend projection fallacy instead of using the universal prior and Jaynes-Solomonoff inversion, as HPMoR explained using the analogy of the inter-magic-national goblin banking system...."

Scientist: "I fucked your mom"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Monologue, 10 second read: “yeah dawg so extrapolating from data seems intuitive, but data alone is not enough to make accurate or convincing predictions.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Oh hey someone in the comments said it even better:

For even more brevity with no loss of substance: ”A turkey gets fed every day, right up until it's slaughtered before Thanksgiving.”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

This feels shorter than these things usually are, or I've just become inured to this stuff.

Of course it turned out to be about not taking AI doom seriously, and not about, say, EA collectively falling for a scammer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I found this article last week about AI bullshit written in 1985 by Tom Athanasiou and published in the, also new to me, Processed World zine.

The world of artificial intelligence can be divided up a lot of different ways, but the most obvious split is between researchers interested in being god and researchers interested in being rich. The members of the first group, the AI "scientists,'' lend the discipline its special charm. They want to study intelligence, both human and "pure'' by simulating it on machines. But it's the ethos of the second group, the "engineers,'' that dominates today's AI establishment. It's their accomplishments that have allowed AI to shed its reputation as a "scientific con game'' (Business Week) and to become as it was recently described in Fortune magazine, the "biggest technology craze since genetic engineering.''

The engineers like to bask in the reflected glory of the AI scientists, but they tend to be practical men, well-schooled in the priorities of economic society. They too worship at the church of machine intelligence, but only on Sundays. During the week, they work the rich lodes of "expert systems'' technology, building systems without claims to consciousness, but able to simulate human skills in economically significant, knowledge-based occupations (The AI market is now expected to reach $2.8 billion by 1990. AI stocks are growing at an annual rate of 30@5).

https://processedworld.com/Issues/issue13/i13mindgames.htm

All Processed World issues on archive.org https://archive.org/search?query=creator%3A%22Processed+World+Collective%22&and%5B%5D=mediatype%3A%22texts%22

and the official Processed World site with html archive https://processedworld.com

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

PW was a doctrinaire commie paper pretending to be punk rock - a bit Christian rock - but it has its moments.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been going through the issues and I've found so far that Tom's works are the standouts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If it weren't dated 1981 I'd be making some uh assumptions about the cover of this issue: https://archive.org/details/processedworld03proc/mode/2up?view=theater

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

something something a cause hole

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

if goatse is the acausal robot god then call me roko, I'm a doomer now.

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