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Don't worry, Snap: Flatpak and Tarballs are NOT better by much. And, chances are, the system package manager may be lacking in so many validation requirements that it's not iso27002-compliant and thus could be junk.
There-there, Snap. Most people won't even know why you suck.
I'd love to use flatpak more, but with my peculiar internet situation, installing a single package can take 6-7 hours.
Why tf does every app have to mount itself as a virtual block device?
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my issue with snaps is honestly just that they are controlled too much by just one entity (canonical) and there is no reason for them to exist because flatpak already does everything they do.
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Apt is kind of broken, to be honest. No package should have full system access during installs or execution.
Only tangentially related - but a friend brought over a new kubuntu install and Canonical had the cheek to demand money for VLC patches? They don't fing own VLC. What the actual f is going on over there, Canonical?
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i just got an Ubuntu machine at work, and really simple packages are only available as snaps. so i guess iβm going to try out Nix home-manager
A stab at my personal ranking: .deb > appimage > flatpack > curling a shell script
I can't help but love a .deb file (even when not via repo), I've almost exclusively used Debian and it derivatives since the late 90s. And snap isn't on the list because it got stored in a loopback device I removed.
As someone who is confused when he has to deal with a .deb file and always has to google what to do with it - what is the advantage of a .deb over let's say a shell script?
I never fully trust a shell script and usually end up reading any I have to use first, so I know what they do. And after so many years dpkg holds no mysteries for me and Discover will install .debs if I double click while in KDE.
It's worth knowing that .deb files can contain setup scripts that get run as root when installed, so you should trust them too.
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I just recently de-snapped yet another ubuntu system. Couldn't agree more. I use debian standard for all of my stuff, and I agree with your ranking.
You can consider using Armbian x64, which is very similar to Ubuntu minus Snap.
As someone who hasn't used Ubuntu since the time they used to mail disks for free, may I ask why? Why not install another distro?
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I tried a snap package on my pop-os system once & it poo'ed folders all over my system, then didn't actually uninstall when I uninstalled it.
No thank you.
thats the thing with snaps: they go all over the place on your system, so even if you uninstall it (which itself is a tiring and cumbersome task at times!), they magically stay everywhere on the systems, with tons of folders and files.
I thought contained snaps can only install into /snap directories.
install yes, but there are tons of other files and folders that get created, IIRC even pseudo-users or something along those lines? (or that was distro-specific perhaps)
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I really like flatpak and it's system, but AppImages are in a nice second place. I usually look for a flatpak first and appimages if I can't find the first.