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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (5 children)

There was a traffic stop a month or so ago where the city police were called by BP for assistance and they actually assisted them in kidnapping people. The mayor is pissed and says that can't happen due to our sanctuary city status (since 1986) and now the federal government is suing us. We have a HUGE population of immigrants from all over the world here as refugees and to attend our two universities and this is going to get ugly.

The head of C&BP is coming to my city this week because of all this. Something tells me ICE is going to be crawling all over this city the whole week and longer. BP already crawls all over the city because we're on the northern border.

I live in a HUD building. I see ICE searches without warning in my near future because of how many immigrants are here. My cane might be useful for more than just balancing me while walking.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Leela: You'll never pardon anybody because you'll never get elected president. The voters of Earth aren't the pea-brained idiots they were back in your time.

Nixon: Oh, no? Well, listen here, missy. Computers may be twice as fast as they were in 1973 but your average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever. The only one who's changed is me. I've become bitter and, let's face it, crazy over the years. And once I'm swept into office, I'll sell our children's organs to zoos for meat and I'll go into people's houses at night and wreck up the place.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

If they break in my house I'm gonna start blasting as if they were criminals (which they are). I don't play these games with normal people and I'm sure as shit not gonna play them with the plain clothes Trump gestapo. If anyone has seen Daredevil born again with the Fisk anti vigilante taskforce thats what we're getting but irl.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I'm a fairly pacifist type, but I have a .30-06 rifle and a 9mm pistol loaded and by my bedside now. I'd like to get a shotgun though...but there are new rules where I am so it's going to take some time.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let's see how long it takes for an ICE goon to get the FAFO treatment.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

So now thieves can just write ICE on a vest and they can rob you

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you allowed to booby trap your house so you can sleep safely at night?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On the off-chance this isn't a joke, no, booby traps are largely illegal because they are indiscriminate and a danger to everyone in the premises, including the person setting the traps.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah imagine you have a medical emergency or a fire or something and EMTs/firefighters come in and get caught in your boobytrap. Very not cool thing to do, those people are trying to save your life.

edit: if your concern is actually people coming in while you sleep you can get very effective barricades/reinforcements for doors and windows that can buy a lot of prep time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Only good ICE is WATER ICE - which is still subjective, and oddly all CAPS.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (3 children)

So if they break into my home, I can shoot ‘em, right?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

edit- have to delete this comment because I posted it under an organization's lemmy account by accident instead of my personal account. sorry bout that. I do not speak for the organization and any opinions I shared on this topic are my own and not theirs. (i just help post information about events for them).

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Most states don't require a permit, and most states didnt have laws about private sales for years so basically a bunch of guns can be traded that have no paperwork, the government doesn't know who has guns anymore

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The entire purpose of the USA’s second amendment is to protect the people from the government. There’s not supposed to be a standing army operating on local soil. Police, soldiers and ICE, ATF, DEA etc are the actual enemies at war with the population.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

You are absolutely wrong that gun permits are necessary in all states. In Florida, the state Constitution actually prohibits gun permits/ registration. In fact, DeSatan recently lowered the age of gun ownership to 18, and removed the requirement for a 4 hour class in order to get a carry permit. So an 18 year old can just buy a gun, stick it in their waistband, and walk out of the store, totally legally.

The result of these laws, or lack of them, is that we just had a college campus shooting by an 18 year old. He was able to legally walk around with a gun without breaking the law, until he set foot on campus, where it is still prohibited. OTOH, the state legislature tries every year to pass a law that permits guns on college campuses, and new congressman Randy Fine just sponsored a bill to do that in February. Considering we just had a lethal campus shooting at FSU, its doubtful it will pass this year either.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

You're certainly free to have your own opinions but most of your assumptions shouldn't be trusted by anyone else reading this.

It is possible to purchase and own firearms without a permit - typically just limited in form-factor and features (i.e. shotgun, no handguns or semi-auto rifles). And even when a (purchase) permit is required, that doesn't necessitate there being a registry and frequently one is explicitly disallowed. It's also possible to buy/trade firearms with private citizens (or 3d print/mill your own if especially crafty) which wouldn't provide a record to anybody but the included parties. When you aren't legally required to disclose you have a firearm it's always better not to make that known. Besides the potential worries about a fascist government coming for them, there's the concern that a list of firearm owners going public is a prime target for theft and break-ins.

Rifles aren't necessarily "slower to load," are you speaking specifically of bolt-action rifles with this? It's about the same amount of time and steps to load a magazine into an AR15 rifle as it is a semi-auto pistol. Unfortunately that also makes them effective in an unlawful mass shooting situation.

If you feel a firearm is the proper solution to the situation you NEVER aim to wound or fire warning shots. It's (presumably) always a life or death situation so you're hoping for the most effective "fight stopping wounds" which is basically center mass of whatever you can see. Same thing with rock salt in a shotgun, it's going to legally be seen the same as if you were firing shot/slugs so you shouldn't treat it like something you can use just to scare something off. In close range, shotguns will have practically no spread unless you're using an extremely cut-down barrel (typically cut to an illegal degree) - you still need to (and should be) direct aiming it and not wildly firing from the hip.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you're worried about an attacker at your door, get a shotgun. Rifles are for when you can aim at a target at distance, pistols for when you can aim at close range. If you can't confidently aim at your target, a shotgun is very effective, even with only a partial hit. (And, if you miss, the shot is unlikely to significantly harm an innocent bystander.)

Also, most states don't require registration. My state is a little weird in that they are avoiding registering firearms, so they make you register transactions.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's my plan. Just upgraded my front door gun to something with a higher fire rate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it aimed at your front door, or is the actual door a gun somehow?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In America, we make most things out of Gun™ for convenience.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Ethically, yes. Legally, they'll just kill you.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, if the alternative is getting shipped to a torture prison in El Salvador with no due process? Not saying it's a good alternative, but it is an alternative.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Good, I don’t want to live in a fascist hellscape anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

Hmm. Stand your ground against fascism.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hey ICE, if the President tells you to do something illegal, you don’t do it! You can still be held liable.

Is it really that hard to have ethics anymore?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ICE doesn't care. They're obviously enjoying being able to do what theyve been doing the past few months.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

There are federal agents that have been reshuffled to ICE as punishment for the Jan 6 investigations, and have been accused of leaking information to the press.

I originally just thought the termination of civil rights offices would mainly be to use polygraphs on these employees and refuse due process rights because so many were trying to warn people of what this administration is doing.

I wasn't expecting something like this memo so soon.

There are definitely plenty of loyalists carrying this shit out, but I believe the administration may be intentionally trying to reshuffle as many federal employees as possible (and now city police to ICE) to increase civil unrest and increase the chances the public will turn on the same people leaking information.

If Congress won't do their job, it will come down to these people willing to refuse orders and face termination if not arrest. The only reason I bring this up, is that if this happens we should keep in mind that there have been people inside ICE trying to warn the country about this stuff for a long time.

If we are too quick to dismiss all of them as loyalists, the administration will be able to downplay any dissent when orders are refused, and possibly convince others who are on the fence that it's in their best interest to comply bc the public is not on their side.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The things is based on their legal interpretation of the constitution, the people chose the president to uphold law and order and do what's best for the people. If the president determines this is what is necessary in order to protect the people from terrorists, his legal team will argue for a constitutional interpretation that says individual liberty is always secondary to the common good.

Just to be clear, this is not what I believe or support. This is what they will argue. I am writing this to try and warn people what they have in mind when they talk about constitutional interpretation

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

the supreme court gets to decide this. And considering some of the recent rulings about due process, I am hopeful.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But how are they going to enforce it? They’ve enforced 0 rulings so far. Trump has been publicly mocking them while defying their orders

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I am hopeful if it does, but the memo is saying they can just do this. So it will take this actually being enforced and someone's (or multiple people's) rights being violated for this to end up before the supreme court.

I think it's no coincidence there was such a high profile arrest of that judge in Wisconsin just before this happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Right, and history shows that these are major mistakes that always have consequences.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I hope so. If the Senate and representatives won't take a stand (which seems they won't), it will be up to police, federal agents, and military leaders taking a stand and refusing orders, probably being terminated if not jailed/court martialed, and public support for them.

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