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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

  • Fascists and Nazis
  • Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
  • “Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
  • A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago

There is no place for Fascists within the Open Source and Free Software communities or the society at large. You will never fester your poisonous roots here

So who took the blog post down at Gnome?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

Looks like I have been an early adopter of Gay™️

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do think ditching X11 is still slightly premature. For all its more modern features, there's still a lot that Wayland either hasn't implemented yet or "can't do" because of its "security model."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (17 children)

Can you name something that's missing? Because I can't think of anything relevant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Do we have a widely adopted aolution yet for screensharing, global shortcuts, and window position restoration?

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

X11 AND Wayland are for degenerates, a distraction at best but mostly just something that wastes CPU cycles and RAM.

THE FUTURE IS TERMINAL!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

obviously the future is shoving the ethernet cable up your ass and dialing in directly

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

That would explain 70% of the shit you can find on the internet

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

YES! i would love it if arcan/durden/lash-cat9 got some mainstream traction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thank you for this new rabbit hole that thanks to my pathological curiosity for software on the far side of normalcy i now HAVE to explore and waste time i should spend working on a project 😜

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, your welcome. It's a great rabbit hole. I remember venturing down it for the first time some years ago. I've since been able to build arcan from source and get pipeworld working on void linux. It's not daily drivable yet, (not for me at least) but it works, and it's cool as fuck.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Gotta say, his latest post, Sunsetting Cursed Terminal Emulation, really reminded me of some programming woes you can read from The Unix Haters' Handbook.

terminal emulators aren’t leaky abstractions, they’re quite literally the abstraction being leaked :-D.
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Once on internet, forever on internet :) Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

Link is dead

I am not exaggerating one bit:

Wish I could believe you but I honestly don't believe anyone who says this anymore.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago

Haha what the hell did I just read

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