Trump says he fears Putin ‘may be tapping me along’ after Zelenskyy meeting : worldnews

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Something odd is happening with the right, seems like they're trying to hedge their bets for blowback.

Trump definitely knew this all along, to say this now seems like damage control.

Then earlier this week Rogan calling out the deportations to El Salvador without a trial, saying it was an overcorrection to the left that has gone too far.

I wonder if the American people will buy it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wonder [not to give him any credit] if DJT would be a better president if he were surrounded by actual decent people that were earnest/honest. It feels like it could be in the realm of possibility that he's treating the Ukraine/Russia conflict the way he has simply because the people around him are only giving him a specific narrative surrounding it. Either intentionally, incidentally, due to incompetence or sycophantic attempts to "please" trump.

Maybe this is the first time getting it from Ukraine's point of view, unfiltered.

Doesn't change/nor justify his shitty behavior, but... it makes a kind of sense.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It wouldn't surprise me. We are a product of our environment, and Trump is a very clear example of that. He tends to mimic and amplify whoever he thinks is the strongest/most powerful around him. He's a LeFou in constant search of a Gaston.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A rare lucid moment

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

He's a sharp one, the ol' Donny!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Trump should know how to recognize tapping people along, it's one of his signature moves, right up there with tax fraud, stiffing creditors and strategic bankruptcy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Rape bruh

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Treason and a riot

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

The human embodiment of Internet Explorer, everyone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Holy shit, he might have finally gotten through to that dunce in some small way.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (6 children)

tapping me along

Anyone got a trump-to-english conversion for this one?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I think maybe he meant "nudging me along"? I imagine Putin there at every step, reassuring Trump that he should just wait and see, that he'll do all work and make Trump look like the big man who negotiated a historic peace deal.

No peace deal means no publicity for the peace deal, so now Trump is getting worried because he tanked the global economy with nothing to show for it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Ever see a really well trained dog where all you have to do is tap the spot beside you and they bound over to you and dutifully sit in that spot?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

He's Putin me on!

[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's amazing how this man's brain is so feeble that he just fully believes what the last person he met with him tells him.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I need to see this play out like a heist movie. Two opposing advisors are battling each other to get their idea in his head for the big speech. They get into some zany hijinks trying to be the last to speak to him. Some real spy vs spy stuff.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

Inception of the stupid. Written, Directed and Produced by the Coen Brothers.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

I want to offer a long history of how everyone saw this coming but I think "LOL" is the best response

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[+] [email protected] 89 points 3 days ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (6 children)

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Vlad wants to end the war. On his terms though, cause he knows he can get it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What is the strategic advantage for Russia for continuing the war?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If I had to guess (my knowledge is a couple of geopolitics books), I'd say Russia wants to create a rift between East and West that is beneficial to China as well. China helped Russia build a quantum computer recently and there are more clues that they're getting even closer together. I think Russia wants to shake the current world order.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Why does maintaining a war, which consumes resources, laborers, and focus/attention, and also creates security threats, be beneficial to Russia for shaking the current world order?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia has been cut out from the West, it couldn't even participate in the Olympics. So it got closer to China. Its economy is resilient despite the war. Russia has also been the leading country in the BRICS in regard to finding an alternative to the dollar together with Brazil. And it is working to ditch SWIFT (the banking system). So I'd say Russia is pretty interested into getting away from the West, at least economically and politically.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why does staying at war on Ukraine advance these aims?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because it deepens the rift. Donald Trump as president also helps Putin a lot, as the russian president have said before, since Trump also wants to shake things up. As could be seen by his tariff policies.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

How does continuing the war deepen the rift? Clearly it strengthens the resolve of European countries to develop their militaries and build alliances.

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[+] [email protected] -13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So you're saying that Putin is behaving irrationally and emotionally based on ego?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Is it because Russia hasn't been defeated, maybe?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You said Putin cannot admit defeat for some reason and I asked if the reason he cannot admit defeat is because Russia has not been defeated yet.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I'm guessing they're fruitlessly trying to use the Socratic method to make you critically examine the wild claims you're making. Even if a victory for Ukraine were still possible as you say, this in no way means Putin is all but defeated and just hiding it. The Russians are not "banking" on Trump pulling back from Ukraine or the EU being unable to meaningfully contribute - both of those things were fully expected a year ago and we can clearly observe right now. Waging a bloody war of attrition until a more favorable geopolitical situation arrives is precisely the stratagem at play here, and is certainly not what losing looks like.

Unless you’re willing to say right here that Russia is an aggressor nation and that the nation, along with its authoritarian leader Putin, is completely in the wrong,

Y'all get that this isn't a cartoon, right? Finding out who the "bad guy" is doesn't mean they're going to lose. Every single one of these things you wrote can be true about Putin and Russia and it still wouldn't budge the situation on the ground at all, your condemnation isn't magic. You can certainly take your ball and leave if you don't want to talk to people with a different analysis, but you can't go to Narnia.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

Scene: DJT standing awkwardly at a table. Beside him, sitting on the floor is Vladimir Putin with his Entire Arm shoved up DJT's ass.

DJT: I'm starting to think Putin might be manipulating me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

He promised me a reach around!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

ROFLMAO

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