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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

50 non-united states of China

:yikes-1::yikes-3:

What I'm kinda saying is this is what the us looks like to an untrained eye, is it really efficient to have so many? Makes sense for China or India but otherwise

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

This is the Auntology thing, right? At least Basuria and Yuyencia. I don't know a lot about it but I've read some articles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Ironic coming from someone with the Indian flag in his username

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

Mfker is bringing back Chinese states in the spring and autumn period (more than 2000 years ago)

:agony: :agony:

This map destroys the mind of anyone who knows anything about Chinese history

Wtf is "Jingchuria" its called "manchuria" because of the manchus, there are no "jingchus"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Millions dead.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (3 children)

Except unlike China the USSR was actually consciously structured as a union of separate nations which were able to break apart with some degree of continuity. China has probably had a majority of its modern land mass since like 1000 AD. Outside of the East Turkestan movement and Tibet, are there even movements within China that would even want to form a separate nation?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Not really. Many regions with cultural minorities like Inner Mongolia seem to have some tensions over things like Language education, but no real separatist movements worth mentioning

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

PRC likes doing this X autonomous region/prefecture thing for their minorities and makes conscious effort to preserve their language and culture. Maybe that could be construed as a union of separate nations?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

I think that's on the level of like saying that the different native reservations in the USA would become separate states. Except not really because the Autonomous regions actually have significantly more autonomy than the reservations do.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Except not really because the Autonomous regions actually have significantly more autonomy than the reservations do.

Shouldn't that encourage separatism?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Not usually. The more autonomous a nation(I'll say for simplicity's sake) is to operate within a state while benefiting from the state, the less likely it is to want to separate. There are a lot of costs associated with being a state, so the advantages of separation are very small compared to the disadvantages.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (2 children)

I have a feeling that even the Tibet and East Turkestan separatist movements are exaggerated. Certainly they are no more serious than the Catalan independence movement that was quite brutally crushed with hardly a side note in the media. For the rest of China, I don't even think it is on the radar.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Must be nice, here the catalan movement is brought up whenerver it looks like the government might do something good for Catalonia.

"Hurr durr, our government is trying to get their support with bribes, grumble grumble" "Our government is trying to break Spain, grrr"

The government might FINALLY pardon and release some independentist leaders and the conservative press is being extremely annoying. (Just like the liberal press, which is "concerned").

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

I'm Canadian and it sounds roughly similar to Quebec. Everyone always complains that they are sort of bribed to stay in Canada. Really they just know how to do politics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

It’s hard for a westerner to gauge the popularity of these things with the sources available to us because like Chinese government certainly publishing any polls about the popularity of Tibetan independence, and you obviously expect US sources to exaggerate these things, but I have no doubt that there is probably a fair number of people who support that, but if there were even a few cranks supporting independence for whatever region the usual suspects would be running with the story.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

It's not really a black and white issue because you can have greater autonomy while staying a part of China. From what I can understand, some degree of regional autonomy was basically baked into the system when it was realized fairly early on that China was way too big and complex to be effectively centrally planned, and that a degree of regional autonomy was essential. I think it is only natural that these regions should agitate for a greater degree of regional autonomy, but if they break completely from China then they only leave themselves open to exploitation by other imperialist forces.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

The frankenstein mandarin-english-german-farsi-latin-turkic place names hurt my eyes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

what are those flags

what are those names

what :lenin-confused:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

It is the ugliest, most batshit insane etymology I've ever seen

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

why are there so many crosses why are there so many crosses

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Lmfao at Tibet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

I searched up one of the names of the countries and found the "official" twitter account of it's "government in exile", that has its pinned tweet as "god bless America"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Ahahahaha oh my God some of the Chinese text is just the transliteration of the made up English names.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Complete nonsense. This is my favorite map like this because it is the worst one by a lot.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Just like the USSR

As expected, these guys don't give a shit about the Chinese people toiling under le evil SeeSeePee, considering how much of a disaster the USSR's break-up was for tens of millions of people. They only care that a threat to the current world order is eliminated.

Also, imagine caring so much for the current world order when your country isn't even at the top. Hindu Nationalism is one hell of a drug.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (4 children)

Liberals and leftists who dislike the CCP MUST understand that if the "evil CCP" is defeated, China will go down the EXACT same path as Russia. Leftists especially need to understand what color revolutions are. It seriously disturbs me how many "leftists" absolutely DESPISE China but have never done anything to counter U.S. imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (2 children)

I always found it interesting that the Tiananmen Square protests happened in 1989 right when all the other "pro-democracy" protests in the socialist world did, but it didn't succeed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

"The students are nuts if they think this handful of people can overthrow our Party and our government."

-- Wang Zhen, Chinese Communist official, May 1989

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

Tankiest I've ever beenThis is why the repression at Tiananmen Square ended up being good for China in the long run

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Tankiest I've ever been

:sicko-yes:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

It seriously disturbs me how many “leftists” absolutely DESPISE China but have never done anything to counter U.S. imperialism.

They're just neolibs who want Healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Years of imperial conditioning leaves lots of :brainworms: .

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

It's infuriating because many of those "leftists" are simultaneously under the delusion that it's best for everyone involved "in the long run" (but also Russia bad lol), for both China and the World. Even way back when I was an anti-China/USSR SocDem, I thought the USSR collapsing the way it did was an objectively terrible thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Damn out comes my inner :meow-tankie:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Legit the most brain wormed China take I've seen in awhile. Lol I was gonna say someone tag @badchinatakes on twitter

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

I just commented on this tweet that a nice man in Naxalbari told me the same thing.

I studied Yoga in India and this guy David Frawley, who I think is an American who got super into advaita vendanta, did a satsang for us. After I got back I innocently decided to follow him on Twitter and that shit is fucking wild. It ranges from just outright neo Nazi stuff to unhinged neoliberal wet dreams to total bizzaro world reglious... Idk what to call it, but let's just say it makes the American christian right look easy mode.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

hoi4 mods and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago (1 children)

We all know that if shit goes loud the shaolin temple will send warrior monks to take over the surrouding territories

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

Wu-Tang! Wu-Tang! Wu-Tang!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago

:wojak-nooo: any day now!!!